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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back we are back

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and uh i can't tell you how happy i am

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to be here tonight some of you may be

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aware that people send me messages from

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time to time

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uh asking me to cover specific cases or

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stories

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and this one has been on my list for

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quite some time and that would be the

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aerial school phenomenon for those

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unaware

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it is an amazing case because it

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involves many different witnesses

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now granted most of them were children

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at the time

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but it also

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includes a very prestigious harvard

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professor of psychology

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who

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interviewed the children

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many stories fall apart over time under

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the least little bit of scrutiny but

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this one has stood the test of time it

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has become an enduring mystery

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what is it that

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a whole classroom or school full of

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never changed and interestingly to me

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a hallmark of uh whether story is true

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or not is to follow the money but when

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you follow the money in this case you

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find that though

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people have been included in

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documentaries and things like that

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television shows and appearances

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you just don't see the cash in the cash

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grab with this case and that's one of

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the reasons why i think it's a credible

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there is a excellent documentary the

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aerial phenomenon and many of you asked

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me to review that and

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separately many of you asked me to

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discuss this case so i

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decided the best thing to do is to not

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just include my opinions here so we've

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brought in a couple of good friends here

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from that one time i was abducted by

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aliens now i'm not sure why but we're

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probably uh you know

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people are busy but we only got

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two of the three crystal hippie [\h__\h]

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but that's okay uh jamie is probably

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hunting for crystals in a cave somewhere

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or putting patchouli oil on crystal

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hippie [\h__\h] that she is

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uh so well we do have uh brianna though

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welcome to rihanna

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crystal hippie [\h__\h]

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oh that's so awesome you actually got

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shirts made that says crystal hippy

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which is oh i'm gonna buy one i love

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that no we'll send it to you just send

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us your po box whoever you want

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i could be a crystal hippie [\h__\h]

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where's jamie is she like she's like

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hunting for crystals in a cave or or you

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think anyone invited her

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oh well that's my fault then sorry well

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that could be why she's not here

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now i gotta find her and send her the

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link so i don't feel like i'm awake

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dummies thanks thanks very much uh

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partner in crime kari is here uh who's

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very familiar with the case and these

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guys are going to make me look like

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slouches because

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i didn't know it but apparently we were

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five minutes before show time i get told

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that they've got slides and i've got my

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charming personality and not much more

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but i do have some bullet points we'll

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be okay you know we're gonna go through

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all right we'll bring in kari now oh hi

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you remembered i was back there hello

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i'm here with my charming personality

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just another day in ufology how are we

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doing everybody yeah

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kind of the way it's been another job in

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ufology

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don't know what that's a sweet caroline

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decided that sweet caroline who's always

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on her live chats channel member big

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brianna she's one of those women that

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just goes just hurry up and finish

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because she couldn't wait through the

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countdown of my premiere she was so

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impatient i love it

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and then she confirmed that she's indeed

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one of those women that just says hurry

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up and finish just get off me

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case so

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besides the movie were you guys aware of

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this case

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previously are you doing over there

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we might have a crate tonight too so

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it's okay well it's okay so the case

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the documentary yes sir

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i heard about it in books

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thing on it like 10 years ago but then

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where they went there and stuff was the

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james fox documentary but like the last

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phenomenon i thought that was really

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look at it but like this documentary

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that we're reviewing tonight was way

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we do the slides and go through the

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notes well well it's you guys if you

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want i did let me know if you want to

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sit through that that's only uh what

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that's like three minutes long so yeah

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trailers though that they copyright

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claim you and and it always it seems so

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stupid to me like don't you want to sell

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your movie it's a trailer like not all

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of them free advertising

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flying object with a bright radiant

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light i've never seen anything like it

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didn't like people from all over

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the bbc to say the face

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there were three of us that sort myself

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the co-pilot and the pilot in the other

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aircraft no wings no nothing shiny over

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ariel school 19th september 94.

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the silver thing in amongst this clump

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kind of alien from a different

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planet when you looked at those children

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and whereabouts was it did you know the

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trees over there there was a big group

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of kids pointing and making a noise and

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shouting and screaming the panic spread

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am i safe why am i not safe he's a

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harvard psychiatrist meet dr john mack a

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believer in aliens from outer space we

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came away convinced that an

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extraordinary event occurred here i

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think they want people to know that

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we're actually making harm on this world

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how did that get communicated to you

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it came from my head somehow there was a

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message about pollution from the way he

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was staring yes i was just a hard-assed

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journalist

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i could handle war zones but i could not

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handle this ufo thing i mean i never

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felt this could derail my career the

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dean wanted to know what is he doing

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angels yes extraterrestrials no john is

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lost at this time

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this journey is literally to pick up the

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pieces and put them back together

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i was right on the logs when it actually

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something that i'll never ever forget

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i've drawn this again

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but i usually kept it quiet people think

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you're crazy my husband doesn't even

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you feel so low in society

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why is it that we tend to want to shrink

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this powerful phenomenon to our notions

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of reality rather than being able to

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stretch ourselves to expand what we know

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would you like to see him again

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yes and if you saw him again what would

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i'll ask him what is he doing on earth

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and what does he want with us

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was that the whole movie i feel like we

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the end of that trailer was the end of

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that's some i gotta take a note when i

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the end you'll get an extra three

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that's true but

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spooky the the 4 3 16 9 transitions did

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that i know this is stupid but for some

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those who don't know

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television used to be fourth perspective

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every time it was the old footage it was

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the squeezed 4-3 and then when it was

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modern footage it was the

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regular fill the whole screen and i

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don't know why but this annoyed the crap

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out of me because it kept flipping back

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and forth between these things maybe

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don't know

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that's me maybe it has nothing to do

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with the case but that's something that

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it could just be a personal preference

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thing of aspect ratio

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yeah maybe but as far as the film itself

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i thought so too they did a great job

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yeah but i think that car and i were

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both felt i'll let you speak for

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yourself cry um

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kept my attention for at least like i

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whatever and then after

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that i was bored out of my mind we were

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gonna do that anyway

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there's a link in the description of

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every single video on this channel yeah

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every single video on this channel we

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pumped here uh and and uh

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if you guys give me a try like a like a

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commercial bumper i'll play in every

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show i don't care

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if you have a bumper we should make yeah

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i'm not like other show hosts that throw

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out of their faces do you like aliens

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do you like learning

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come to that one time i was abducted by

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aliens

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yeah that's a little bit really is in

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the description you should go over there

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and support them that would be good

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george nori

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what did you think of the credibility of

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the children because i found them to be

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credible both in the old interviews and

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in the sort of updates because for those

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unaware in the film they showed the

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original children being interviewed and

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what they said and then several of those

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children they were able to track down

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and include in the film and they sort of

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got an update from them of what had been

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you know their experience

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had their opinions changed what they saw

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and all of them were pretty dead-on no i

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that's what i saw i saw

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what appeared to be otherworldly

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creature you know

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i thought they were incredibly credible

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especially because

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and i could be mistaken but i haven't

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been able to find any of them really

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trying to cash in on the story

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you're not and you're not going to i

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mean i think people assume that when you

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do a documentary that everyone's getting

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paid to do it

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even the producers

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and

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i

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producers

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um and everyone in whatever

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entertainment production that they're

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using

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they are usually working overtime like

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to the bone on a really small budget

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and i can't imagine that millions of

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people are going out and buying the film

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um but i think it's awesome that we can

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compare

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who these people were

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to how they are now and to see

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i feel like the the documentary was

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really trying to highlight the emotional

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implications of

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seeing something

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that is so out of this world

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especially from a young age like how

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that carries down into your life

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thank you sweet caroline

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even though she probably wants me to

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hurry up and finish reading her super

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chat money money money money money

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praise the cash thank you sweetheart

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thank you ufo john doe and lord ludacris

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as well

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i uh i i

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i am also very intrigued by this notion

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that they were somehow telepathically

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communicated and all got this message

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that we're destroying the earth

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and that we need to change course or

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something like that that that's weird to

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me that they would all get these images

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of pollution and

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you know devastation on the earth and

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some sort of message that we have to

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improve the way we treat our planet

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and that's not really off from a lot of

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abductee stories

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um yeah i mean we could name

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countless abductees that all kind of say

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the same thing

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whether it was done differently like if

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they're taken to a room and they have to

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watch it through a screen over and over

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again

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uh you know like the apocalypse or what

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the world's gonna look like but it

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doesn't seem to be a new

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a new notion that um

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ets are pushing on to people

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i have a question

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yeah go ahead

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at what point was

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this telepathic message introduced into

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the story

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was it in the first is it in the first

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interviews or was it after it was in the

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first it was in the first interview it

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wasn't

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it was in the first interview

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turned up no there there's the footage

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of john mack talking to them it's in the

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trailer as well

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right but that wasn't the first

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interview the the very first interview

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was a bbc guy who turned up yeah yeah

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that i don't know that is that is for me

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the only

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kind of

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untampered with testimony

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because everything after that was after

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the mufon investigator turned up and

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then john mack turns up and these kids

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have

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no clue what the [\h__\h] is going on

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and

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to have the initial contact with just a

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guy with a camera going hey what did you

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see and they're all stood in the group

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telling the story that feels way more

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kind of

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carries way more weight with me

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in terms of its honesty

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to to the later footage where they're

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obviously all on edge

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and

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going through this process of

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understanding what's going on and i just

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wonder at what point in that process was

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this telepathic message

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introduced into the timeline because

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surely

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i don't know i don't think that was in

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the initial in

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initial interviews

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and

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yeah but you also have to remember that

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john mack is sort of a trained

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psychiatrist so it would be natural that

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he's going to get more detail out of the

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children than than some

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journalists would maybe

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he seemed to be going in like very

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gentle and like trying to his his

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i think he's trying to get it out like

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he

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leading

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um i think he just took what they would

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say and then like

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try to get them to finish the sentence

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yes in time especially with children i'm

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sure that they could kind of just put

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things together that maybe they didn't

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mean

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but i think in the initial interviews

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with just a cameraman asking straight

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questions

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and they didn't really have any time to

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i think um sit with what had happened

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and then you bring a psych you know a

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psychologist and with you and he knows

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how to ask questions to get you to think

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deeper

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and it could also be the time like maybe

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they you know i'm thinking dreams

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well it was like months later when john

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mack turned up right

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yeah they've had time and all the

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parents

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there was a whole reaction how did we go

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from 60 witnesses down to

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is it 12 that are kind of mainly

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featured

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thank you john there's my channel

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smaller and smaller bbc showed up on

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monday the incident happened on friday

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the one problem that i have with john

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jackson's involvement is

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is that john mack was already

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predisposed you know he was already deep

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into alien abduction interviews he was

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interviewing like all these different

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alien abduction victims

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and uh writing about alien abduction i

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would have preferred if they were going

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to bring in a psychologist that they

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would have brought in somebody

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not related to the whole ufo or aliens

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thing

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wouldn't that have been it's hard yeah i

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think so

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but would it would it have

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no probably not no and and maybe

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they wanted somebody with an open mind

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and the expertise but

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i think that he kind of heard about it

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and then just flew right over there to

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start interviewing the children it

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wasn't like they asked him to come there

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and interview the children

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what do you think

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i was thinking about it when i was

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watching it like how did john mack hear

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about it and the key in that situation i

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think is cynthia hein being this

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this was it the the african coordinator

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for mufon i think she's

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back channeled somewhere to get a

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message to people who might be

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interested in in the states and

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yeah there we go you know

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there's just so many like psychologists

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out there that don't consider this a

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possibility

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um so i think you'll have two different

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people kind of no matter what you're not

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going to win if they would have brought

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in someone that didn't have any

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background at all with people that have

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seen these things or don't even believe

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it they might not ask the same questions

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and i think that uh john was although he

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had already moved over into this is a

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his new kind of field

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he was still the guy that was very

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academic and then kind of dipped his

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toes into more of the aspects okay yeah

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sure answered the question he sure paid

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for it i think he was very great i think

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he was very brave to even uh entertain

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that

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this whole thing because you know he's

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very serious academic well-respected

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harvard

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psychiatrist and then the next thing you

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know

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he's uh involved in all this alien stuff

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and and harvard literally tried to throw

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him out of the school i think and but he

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yeah like some kind of inquiry board you

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know and and they really kind of

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pressured him to leave

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and i think interestingly

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khari who is louis lozando's lawyer

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donnie

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danny sheehan was his lawyer still with

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him oh yeah he was cause he was also in

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the documentary

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who yeah daniel sheehan daniel

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lawyer

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i think when when harvard kind of uh

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sort of attacked him for studying aliens

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and alien abduction

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i could be wrong on that but i'm pretty

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sure that's exactly and

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and they

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they kind of like had it back down

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because he had such a

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well-known prestigious lawyer in the

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form of sheehan who was like

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wasn't gonna back down he's not you know

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he he's allowed to study whatever he

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wants there he had tenure and you know

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at some point they can't really

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interfere with your research you know

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but i don't think harvard liked the

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headlines like harvard professor and

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aliens you know exactly yeah which i

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understand because i mean even the

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documentary i think one of the words

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that was used is that it kind of seemed

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like harvard was backing this because of

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course any time he's going to be in the

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picture they're going to mention

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harvard professor

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john max so then it seems like oh

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00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:50,480
harvard is taking this seriously that

566
00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:53,039
name drop is kind of you know it's heavy

567
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:55,120
enough i think where people

568
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,039
pay more attention to it so i kind of

569
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:59,440
understand although i don't i obviously

570
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:01,280
don't like that i think it's kind of

571
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:02,640
messed up

572
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:05,360
um because even if the kids were crazy

573
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:06,400
let's say

574
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:08,400
that is that still not a mental health

575
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:10,000
issue

576
00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:12,400
yeah if it was that they made it out

577
00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:13,760
thank you again

578
00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:15,760
he says karya right though mufon lady

579
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:18,320
bbc reporter and the lady reporter never

580
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,880
asked those intimate telepathy questions

581
00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:22,640
they ask what they saw

582
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:24,240
so you're not wrong

583
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:26,799
yeah so i suppose the first interviews

584
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:29,760
did not include any of this telepathic

585
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:31,360
community they didn't even mention it

586
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:32,640
though

587
00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:33,360
yeah

588
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:51,270
i would have really liked to see the

589
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:52,400
entire

590
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:57,520
people have people who are skeptical

591
00:24:02,310 --> 00:23:59,840
have accused or i think even like the

592
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:02,320
skeptic society or or one of those

593
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:04,880
societies that did sort of a debunk on

594
00:24:09,029 --> 00:24:07,120
this whole thing they claimed that dr

595
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:09,039
john mack was using very leading

596
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:10,960
questions like

597
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:13,520
did they have big eyes that's not how

598
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:16,159
you would ask a question you would say

599
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,320
how big were their eyes not did they

600
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:20,640
have big eyes and then right you know

601
00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:22,480
you're painting a picture for them and

602
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:23,919
then asking the question at the same

603
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,919
time it could be very agreeable right

604
00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:27,600
like

605
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:28,960
and they want to please who they're

606
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:30,880
talking to so maybe they would just go

607
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:32,720
with whatever he was wherever he was

608
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:34,240
leading them

609
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,159
but they're so adamant in their

610
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:38,480
adulthood at what they saw

611
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:41,440
leading questions this is my note

612
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:43,679
leading questions excuse me this is just

613
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:46,080
i thought you had slides this is it i

614
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:49,679
have slides oh brie has slides i have

615
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:51,520
some a journal note that i ripped out

616
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:53,120
with my journal

617
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:56,559
well it's double-sided though

618
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:58,640
i even did a doodle of the ufo like

619
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:01,360
there you go and i called it her little

620
00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:03,600
her turn she drew a little turn i did

621
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:06,159
draw a little turn it's okay

622
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,440
i made my ufo

623
00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:11,360
you know uh the other thing that i was

624
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:13,279
wondering is if the children may have

625
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,360
been influenced by

626
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:17,840
certain you know movies and things that

627
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,559
were out at the time but i mean i i

628
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:22,240
wasn't able to find any it's not like

629
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:24,159
e.t or

630
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:26,159
or you know close encounters came out

631
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:28,559
the month before this happened

632
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:29,840
so

633
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:30,720
you know

634
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:34,880
you can look up 1992 1993 1994 movies

635
00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:37,039
nothing really stood out to me

636
00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:38,400
you know

637
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,080
no not at all

638
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:42,480
uh and then it's like even if even if

639
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:45,200
that was the case did 62 students all

640
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:46,880
get together and just agree that they

641
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:49,760
were gonna pretend to see the same thing

642
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,480
yeah that doesn't make any sense

643
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:54,559
yeah and the fact that they all gave

644
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:58,559
similar accounts drew similar drawings

645
00:26:02,149 --> 00:25:59,360
that

646
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:02,159
the same thing

647
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:04,240
i i would assume that they all saw the

648
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:06,240
same thing or nearly the same thing

649
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:07,840
right mm-hmm

650
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:09,440
this is why i think

651
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:11,440
you go you're good

652
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:12,640
i was just gonna say i think we're

653
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:14,799
dealing with them saying the same thing

654
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:17,360
but then also describing it a little bit

655
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:18,640
different

656
00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:21,200
um but i do believe that when you have

657
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:22,159
such a

658
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:26,480
don't know what you're looking at

659
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:28,320
i think it's hard to put those things

660
00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:29,840
together

661
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:32,559
so it's hard to know if they were

662
00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:34,320
filling in blanks that they didn't have

663
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:35,440
because they're listening to their

664
00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:36,880
friends

665
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:38,799
or if they really just that's what their

666
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:40,240
consciousness was telling them that they

667
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:41,760
were looking at

668
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,240
it's it can go both ways i believe

669
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:48,320
yeah and i was interested and intrigued

670
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:50,559
also by that description where they sort

671
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:51,520
of like

672
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:53,840
maybe the beings appeared to be in and

673
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:56,240
out of phase or something like that like

674
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:58,240
there was some sort of distortion of

675
00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:59,760
reality

676
00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:01,440
because that leads into a whole other

677
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:04,080
thing like it could have been not aliens

678
00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:04,960
it could have been some kind of

679
00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:07,120
interdimensional rift or something

680
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:09,440
because they saw this i had a thought

681
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:11,200
about that earlier today

682
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:11,919
so

683
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:12,720
okay

684
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:15,360
let's assume for argument's sake

685
00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:17,679
a craft really came down

686
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:21,440
and people got out and

687
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:23,679
the report is that they were running but

688
00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:25,520
in slow motion then they would phase out

689
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:27,679
and be back the other side of the field

690
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:31,200
repeating the process over and over

691
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:32,320
is that

692
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:35,120
an artifact of some kind of time

693
00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:36,880
dilation

694
00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:38,640
now i had the thought if this is a real

695
00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:41,360
craft with some kind of alien drive what

696
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:43,279
if it was malfunctioning and that's why

697
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:44,640
they landed

698
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,640
and there's a time dilation field which

699
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:48,559
is messing with everything and then they

700
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:50,799
get out and they're like come with us

701
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:53,120
and it's a pretty crazy nutty story but

702
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:54,000
like

703
00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:57,200
i'm trying to rationally explain how

704
00:28:01,430 --> 00:28:00,320
there could be a the visual for 60 kids

705
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:01,440
of

706
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,399
a being running in slow motion

707
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:06,159
like how does that happen

708
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:07,840
to 60 kids

709
00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:10,080
yeah and i was also struck by like you

710
00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:12,320
know i have i have a six-year-old and if

711
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:13,039
he

712
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:14,880
saw something like that like i wouldn't

713
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,880
know what to do with with that or with

714
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,720
right you know i mean my first thing

715
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:20,159
would probably be to get him counseling

716
00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:21,600
and make sure everything's okay or

717
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:22,799
something but

718
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:24,799
that had to be weird because all these

719
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:26,720
parents their children came home and

720
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:28,640
started telling this that they saw this

721
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:32,000
strange craft and these beings and

722
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:34,960
and some of the some of the uh families

723
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:36,799
were religious and that becomes very

724
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:39,200
problematic for religious people you

725
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:40,159
know

726
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:41,039
because

727
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:41,919
most

728
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:46,559
to oh that's demonic you know

729
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:49,120
it's the devil yeah it's that girl emily

730
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:51,279
trim who was it seemed to me almost like

731
00:28:56,630 --> 00:28:54,399
she was one of the focuses of the movie

732
00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:56,640
um that you know her

733
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,360
family was extremely christian and the

734
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:01,279
day after the sighting they're like wrap

735
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:03,760
it up and they left and went to canada

736
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:05,600
that's a good point so they literally

737
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:08,240
were like we're done here

738
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:10,000
we're not talking about

739
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:12,559
i'm aware of a family i'm aware of a

740
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:15,840
family that bought a home near

741
00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:17,760
a friend and they

742
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,240
were convinced that the house was uh

743
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:22,399
infested with demonic entities they

744
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:23,520
moved in

745
00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:24,799
and the very next week they put the

746
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,399
house up for sale and moved out like two

747
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:27,840
weeks later

748
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,840
it's weird but i guess some people when

749
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:31,440
confronted with something paranormal

750
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:32,399
they're like

751
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:38,789
simon fly has an excellent comment in

752
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:40,720
the in the chat there

753
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:43,200
simon fly okay the drawings weren't all

754
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,559
the same

755
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:46,399
they were kids who also have vivid

756
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:48,399
imaginations kids also prone to wanting

757
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:49,840
to belong

758
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:51,200
and just go along with what everyone

759
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:53,120
else is saying no picks lots of red

760
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:55,440
flags yeah and the fact that none of the

761
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:56,720
teachers

762
00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,240
odd to me because

763
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:01,840
i i don't know how they do it in

764
00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:03,760
zimbabwe but here in the united states

765
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:06,159
if a bunch of kids are out playing

766
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,600
there have got to be some kind of

767
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:09,440
supervision and it sounds to me like the

768
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:10,960
teachers just said well we were having a

769
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:13,120
staff meeting we just left right outside

770
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:16,480
by themselves that's bizarre to me i did

771
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:18,000
think that was weird

772
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:19,440
these are little kids these are like

773
00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:21,200
first and second graders some of them

774
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:23,279
you know they go should we get your

775
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:24,720
slice

776
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:27,039
the i think it's like

777
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,039
getting impatient i want to see the

778
00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:31,679
slides i'm excited

779
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:32,559
okay

780
00:30:35,269 --> 00:30:33,840
i don't know if i haven't that's

781
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:35,279
exciting

782
00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:39,510
i renamed it

783
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:47,350
yeah that's kind of accurate actually so

784
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:49,039
we've already basically covered all of

785
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:50,720
this i took these screenshots it's a

786
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:52,720
nice visual while we're talking

787
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:54,799
yeah so here's the school i mean there's

788
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,480
nothing around here yeah it's the middle

789
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:00,240
yeah so like

790
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:03,200
are they really worried about

791
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:05,200
oh this is my drawing this

792
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:07,120
is it just mirrors that crocodile dundee

793
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:10,080
when he was like six

794
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,159
crocky might

795
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:14,000
yeah he does look like

796
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:15,679
this was my drawing this was my

797
00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:18,080
recreation

798
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:19,520
at that very good because that's

799
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:22,640
basically exactly what happened uh right

800
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:24,159
the older kids are running down to all

801
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:25,840
the smaller kids and some of them are

802
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:28,960
crying they poor kid lost his lunch look

803
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:30,559
at that

804
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:32,559
i know he's like i'm out of here

805
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:34,000
um

806
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,320
that's a good depiction of it that is

807
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:38,159
that's like no because like this is

808
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:40,159
where it was

809
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:44,470
oh did it not show up

810
00:32:02,549 --> 00:31:59,990
justice for luis jimenez very good

811
00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:02,559
so this is where i mean this is the the

812
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:04,640
back area of this school there's nothing

813
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:06,320
there

814
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:08,000
so i mean i don't know i think they do

815
00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:09,840
things differently than here in the

816
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:11,360
states there's some trees bree that's

817
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:13,600
not nothing there's some huts too look

818
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:15,760
at that

819
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:17,679
those are probably where the principals

820
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:20,240
and the teachers uh reside

821
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:23,120
those are teachers quarters they live in

822
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:24,559
in the hubs

823
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:26,799
i don't see why not they go

824
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,750
you see all those mountains and hills if

825
00:32:36,549 --> 00:32:35,279
you were going to land somewhere it

826
00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:36,559
makes sense you're going to land on a

827
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:39,279
flat area the only flat part right the

828
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:40,720
only flat floor right there at the

829
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:41,760
school

830
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:47,760
and then the reason why this has been

831
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:50,000
kind of floating around is because you

832
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:52,399
have some kids like oh i saw them

833
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:53,679
um

834
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,679
on a rock or other ones just say in the

835
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:57,440
trees who

836
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:59,039
knows

837
00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:01,679
um we already talked about john mack

838
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:02,559
um

839
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:04,320
but

840
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:06,240
john mack

841
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:08,320
this man right here everything seemed to

842
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:16,789
sorry i had to get one i had to get one

843
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:18,880
sean martin i know people are saying

844
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:20,960
that the drawings weren't all the same

845
00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:23,760
but they're pretty damn similar

846
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:25,760
are pretty similar but even mine's

847
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:27,760
similar look at that

848
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,559
yeah

849
00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:30,399
i i did

850
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:31,279
um

851
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:32,640
there are some more in here but that's

852
00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:34,000
all kind of the same thing that there it

853
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:37,279
was like in between trees

854
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,960
um

855
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:40,000
the whole

856
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:42,320
person in black people in black things a

857
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:44,000
bit weird

858
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:48,640
but again it's like a ufo and trees

859
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:51,120
i think a really interesting detail that

860
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:53,919
one of the children well now an adult

861
00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:55,200
was saying

862
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:57,600
was that their skin looked

863
00:34:02,230 --> 00:33:59,760
almost like plastic

864
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,240
that their faces were so white that it

865
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:05,039
doesn't even register as pale it looked

866
00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:06,720
like plastic

867
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:11,829
i don't know if i feel like diving into

868
00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:14,320
a conspiracy now but

869
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:15,839
let's just say

870
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:18,000
if this wasn't a real encounter

871
00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:20,240
the only way that i can see this is

872
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:24,079
being faked is if all of those teachers

873
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:25,200
um

874
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:26,960
i don't know why they would do this

875
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:28,000
because i don't see how you would get

876
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:30,000
funding from this but what if all these

877
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:31,679
teachers were mysteriously gone because

878
00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:33,280
they were gonna do this to the kids on

879
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,119
purpose to get attention and they're

880
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,280
just wearing black suits and masks and

881
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:39,599
that's like the plastic on their face

882
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:41,839
could be but that's a stretch i think

883
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:43,599
that's like such a stretch so that's

884
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:46,079
that's it's hard because i understand

885
00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:47,679
why a lot of people have questions about

886
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:50,000
this but

887
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:52,960
all of this i mean

888
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:54,800
there's so many the only thing that

889
00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:56,800
doesn't make sense is this girl who said

890
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,320
that they're i mean doesn't this look

891
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:00,560
like a blimp

892
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:03,680
yeah kind of yeah and i the the the one

893
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:06,160
time i've uh didn't mick west come up

894
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:07,920
with some explanation that it was like a

895
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:09,839
volkswagen

896
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:13,440
bus and uh puppets or something right

897
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:14,880
that

898
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:17,839
no i i don't see how you mistake puppets

899
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:19,839
but people have mentioned the plasticky

900
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:21,440
faces and said oh it could have been

901
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:22,480
puppets

902
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:24,240
like somebody's running around in the

903
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:25,760
woods right next to a school with

904
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:27,040
puppets

905
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:29,520
and a volkswagen bus it doesn't make

906
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:32,400
sense to me so i you know this is one of

907
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:35,119
those cases that i can't explain it and

908
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:37,119
it's difficult to to come up with an

909
00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:41,040
alternate explanation for what they saw

910
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,800
right extremely like

911
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,200
you know

912
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:47,599
the age group so they're they were

913
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:57,910
ray also has like five pages of notes

914
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,880
seventh

915
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:00,560
yeah so they were for anywhere from

916
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,230
that's quite an age bracket

917
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:08,880
you know i mean i i could see like the

918
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,640
smaller kids making things up but i

919
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,640
think it it i mean i remember being in

920
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:14,640
seventh grade i

921
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:16,240
feel like i

922
00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:17,680
wouldn't have made it you know it's

923
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:19,119
interesting people are bringing up the

924
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:21,200
uh the head teacher because like

925
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:23,200
this was my initial take

926
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:25,680
on the head teacher and it reads

927
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,400
did he pressure the the kids how does he

928
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:30,640
feel about like the myth that's happened

929
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,560
from it now later on he like gives an

930
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:34,560
interview but that my first impression

931
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:36,079
was

932
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:38,400
off about him i don't know about this as

933
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,000
somebody said the principal was really

934
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:42,240
short and obsessed with ufos i never

935
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:44,560
yeah that's like i didn't know that he

936
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,560
seemed like he was

937
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:48,320
it just seemed awkward and maybe that's

938
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:49,680
why because he was trying to pretend

939
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,440
like he didn't know

940
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:53,119
what was going on

941
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,520
and the the fact that goes to bree's

942
00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:57,760
theory that it was them because if the

943
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:59,599
head teacher of the school is really

944
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:01,119
into ufos

945
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:04,000
knows how to like knows the

946
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:05,920
literature yeah the mythology and the

947
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:08,560
literature knows how to fake it and it

948
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:11,680
creates like a it creates its own loop

949
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:14,240
you learn about it to fake it to create

950
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:15,359
the new

951
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:17,200
law to

952
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:18,400
you know

953
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:20,800
right jello putin says yeah man you guys

954
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:23,440
go don't get to destroy this one damn it

955
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:25,599
and and i'm not here to destroy your

956
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:26,800
people's life

957
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:28,640
i'm here to review the evidence

958
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:30,640
so people send me messages like why

959
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:32,960
don't you review a case that's real

960
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,000
we we go through the whatever the case

961
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:38,400
is and then we you know so it's not my

962
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:41,040
fault that there's so much fake [\h__\h]

963
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:43,280
you know this one's this one's still in

964
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:45,680
my gray basket and it has been for a

965
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,880
decade yeah you know and i mean okay so

966
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:50,800
then there were sightings later on in

967
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:52,240
the evening though

968
00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:55,040
and earlier in the day as well so like

969
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:56,800
all of this is just happening and and

970
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:58,640
the teachers just miraculously picked a

971
00:38:02,150 --> 00:38:00,800
day to to fake a ufo lending and it

972
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,160
happened to be where

973
00:38:06,790 --> 00:38:04,960
pilots and people throughout the other

974
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:06,800
area we're also seeing some things well

975
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:08,320
i don't think that it's a possibility

976
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:10,480
that the teachers did it unless unless

977
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:11,760
some of them weren't in on it because

978
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,200
there was some teachers that are just

979
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:14,880
like well i think the kids have

980
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:24,310
kicks in yes

981
00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:26,160
but i i just don't think that the

982
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:28,640
teachers faking it is a good explanation

983
00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:30,960
it's pretty far-fetched

984
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:33,200
i i know i know who we should ask we

985
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:34,240
should ask

986
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:36,800
ian crossland what he thinks he'll he'll

987
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:38,880
tell you that it was a it was a top

988
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:40,960
secret craft made of graphite it was a

989
00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:43,839
top secret craft it was made of graphene

990
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:45,920
now you gotta tell your teachers to tell

991
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:48,960
the kids in the school

992
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:50,960
somebody didn't like the rings of power

993
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:52,960
i'm gonna give you back to carrie now

994
00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:55,200
okay

995
00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:57,760
yeah we have just eyewitness testimony

996
00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:00,640
um from children yes but then there are

997
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:02,720
adults that

998
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:05,280
were pilots there were three of them

999
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:08,640
total uh pilots wise you saw them

1000
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:10,079
so that that's the only thing and this

1001
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:12,400
is a video i just took screenshots of

1002
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:14,560
the video that was played

1003
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:16,720
um where there was just kind of like one

1004
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:20,160
orb and then it splits

1005
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:21,440
into two

1006
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:22,880
and welcome to the show

1007
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:24,400
could have been a chemical release that

1008
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:27,440
caused the mass illusion oh oh i have a

1009
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:29,680
note for that it's in a cube it says

1010
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:32,800
mass hypnosis

1011
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:35,200
well you know it is very common that

1012
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:38,960
people can experience these gas leaks or

1013
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:41,680
even that are natural like a methane

1014
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:43,520
there'll be a methane deposit under the

1015
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:45,440
earth somewhere and

1016
00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:46,960
there's methane being released and

1017
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,359
people like half pass out and they have

1018
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:51,520
hallucinations and things like that and

1019
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:53,599
it's it's caused by that

1020
00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:55,359
but i mean

1021
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:56,560
yeah

1022
00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:58,800
i don't think that many children would

1023
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:01,200
be affected or there would have been

1024
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:03,280
some medical signs of

1025
00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:06,079
you know some kind of gas exposure maybe

1026
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:07,839
maybe right i don't know

1027
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:08,640
yeah

1028
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:12,079
this is the part of the mystery

1029
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:13,760
it

1030
00:40:22,310 --> 00:40:19,440
they are separate instances but for me

1031
00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:22,320
it's just odd that there would be that

1032
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:24,079
with all the other sightings that took

1033
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:24,960
place

1034
00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:27,680
it was all over the newspapers

1035
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:30,320
and um

1036
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:32,880
so like in this one one of the excuses

1037
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:37,200
uh was that it was a russian rocket

1038
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:40,000
so the outer the upper stage of a

1039
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:42,079
russian rocket that was launched in

1040
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:44,079
august

1041
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:45,200
26

1042
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:47,520
that it was that falling down and people

1043
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:53,510
which kari and i figured out later was

1044
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:58,230
that

1045
00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:00,800
so it wasn't couldn't have been a rocket

1046
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:02,400
it could have been space debris coming

1047
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:05,040
down it could not have been

1048
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:06,400
no because

1049
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:09,040
so i i asked carla can you look up the

1050
00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:16,390
hey you finally made it you know what

1051
00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:18,800
that is i i'm gonna chalk that up to a

1052
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:22,319
phallic fantasy you have with me

1053
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,560
that's what i think look at that that is

1054
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,640
a phallic symbol that is how i'm

1055
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:29,040
affecting this woman you think so i i

1056
00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:32,240
was thinking you're going i'm alone

1057
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:34,400
i don't know i hope so

1058
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,920
hey we can think that that's thanks

1059
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:37,200
obama

1060
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:39,119
thank you

1061
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:41,280
um so yeah people are saying i was it's

1062
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:42,079
the

1063
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:45,760
russian rocket

1064
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:50,079
that was launched the 25th but it docked

1065
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:52,880
september 2nd

1066
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:55,359
it didn't even leave

1067
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:57,680
until october so we're just like how

1068
00:42:00,829 --> 00:41:58,560
does

1069
00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:00,839
how is that

1070
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:03,200
possible how some people put that

1071
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:04,640
explanation they say well it could have

1072
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,160
been space debris there was a space

1073
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:08,480
launch nearby and they don't do the

1074
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:11,200
extra step to check because you know

1075
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,520
yeah you can check you know

1076
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:15,200
yeah so that didn't make sense the only

1077
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:17,839
thing that they had other than that was

1078
00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:20,640
that it could have been a meteorite

1079
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,119
um it could have been yeah and that we

1080
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,200
have no idea

1081
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:27,040
but we don't have

1082
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:28,480
yeah but i think the witnesses said it

1083
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:30,160
hovered and changed direction which

1084
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,400
would indicate some form of intelligent

1085
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:34,800
control meteors don't do that

1086
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:37,200
although yeah this article could be a

1087
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,640
result of misunderstanding the reports

1088
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:42,160
that people were giving

1089
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:43,599
or it could be a whitewashing of the

1090
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:46,000
reports that people were giving

1091
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:47,680
sweet carolyn's throwing shade on her

1092
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:49,599
saying brianna did her research for this

1093
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:50,960
she's good

1094
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:53,280
and me and you are slacking i always

1095
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:55,200
roll like that man

1096
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:56,319
i um

1097
00:43:02,470 --> 00:43:00,240
i did at least i wrote something stephen

1098
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:02,480
yeah at least you have a nap well i

1099
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:04,960
wrote bullet points come on

1100
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:06,079
let's see them

1101
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:10,800
yes i am a different computer they are

1102
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:16,790
i watched it once and didn't take any

1103
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:18,000
notes and then i felt like i had to

1104
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:19,520
watch it again right take some kind of

1105
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:21,920
notes but they were just just points and

1106
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:24,720
bullet points you know things like the

1107
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:27,359
consistency of the stories as the

1108
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:31,119
children aged also impressed me like

1109
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:32,960
you would think that the

1110
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:35,599
the fog of time would change their story

1111
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:38,000
but they didn't and i was also intrigued

1112
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,640
by that artist girl who seemed pretty

1113
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:42,880
obsessed you know like she just keeps

1114
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:45,440
painting the alien that she saw over and

1115
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:47,119
over and over again and the crap that

1116
00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:48,160
she saw

1117
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,760
the thing is it's easy to remember a

1118
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:51,760
story when it's been recorded on video

1119
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,160
and put on tv for decades oh what's the

1120
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:56,480
trouble with her i don't know

1121
00:44:03,030 --> 00:43:59,520
i don't know what it is but for some

1122
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:03,040
reason i just kept waiting for more from

1123
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:04,960
her

1124
00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:06,240
um

1125
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:08,160
i told kyle when i watched it the first

1126
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,040
time

1127
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:11,520
and she was really upset she was crying

1128
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:14,880
so i rewound it to be like did i did i

1129
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,560
miss something did she tell us that

1130
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:18,640
something happened

1131
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:20,720
and there was nothing there so i don't

1132
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:22,960
know the only thing i can think of is

1133
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:25,200
maybe she's had other experiences and

1134
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:27,599
she's not open to talking about it

1135
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:29,040
um

1136
00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:30,800
because would you really have halted

1137
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:32,720
your entire life

1138
00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:33,920
i don't know

1139
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:35,920
i mean what's your guys's opinions on

1140
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:38,000
that i mean she said she

1141
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:40,960
left her town she um

1142
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:43,440
ended her relationship she was engaged

1143
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:45,359
now she's like living with her parents

1144
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:47,839
she's upset she feels isolated she's

1145
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:49,920
going through some type of depression

1146
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:51,839
yeah and now is the time where she goes

1147
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:54,880
back to revisit this that's right

1148
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:57,280
as well and and and and there's

1149
00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:58,880
something weird with her like she seems

1150
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:00,560
so familiar to me and i

1151
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:02,880
can't for the life of me figure out why

1152
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:04,480
like maybe she looks like somebody i

1153
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:06,000
used to know or something but there's

1154
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:09,119
something weird about her that seems

1155
00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:11,440
familiar to me

1156
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:13,359
maybe just too many crystal hippie [\h__\h]

1157
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:16,319
artists that i've known in my life maybe

1158
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:24,790
oh no but i'm not a crier so i don't

1159
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:26,880
know i'll be honest like kind of tuned

1160
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:29,119
out by the end

1161
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:32,079
yeah really hard like the first out 45

1162
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:33,920
minutes to an hour were really well put

1163
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:36,319
together like on the first notes i wrote

1164
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:37,599
was

1165
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:40,480
intro nice use of archival because it

1166
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,480
did really set the stage with all the

1167
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,640
news reports and like situating the

1168
00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:46,400
audience and then by the time

1169
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:48,079
you got through

1170
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:50,800
like the main chunk of it and it kind of

1171
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:52,720
came to the present day to come and

1172
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:53,920
investigate

1173
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:56,640
we don't get political here

1174
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,640
black philosophers heck

1175
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:00,480
somebody mentioned that we should do a

1176
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:02,480
political episode and we don't do that

1177
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:05,520
here and and further it's it's election

1178
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:08,160
time and somebody woke me up today some

1179
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,280
rude lady woke me up and she goes

1180
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:13,200
oh i didn't wake you up did i and then

1181
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:15,680
she looks at her watch and says it is 10

1182
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:18,160
a.m and i said some people work nights

1183
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:21,200
lady and i slam my door in her face we i

1184
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:23,280
hate politics well i don't ever want to

1185
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:25,680
do politics shows

1186
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:27,920
and i didn't know that that girl uh

1187
00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:30,480
what's her name again emily

1188
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:32,319
i didn't know that

1189
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:34,880
she mentioned other experiences because

1190
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,440
i just kept waiting for more from her

1191
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,440
and and i watched it

1192
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:41,920
twice and i just was like why are you

1193
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:43,839
what is so upsetting there's got to be

1194
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:45,839
more to the story

1195
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,880
um

1196
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:48,480
so maybe that makes sense if she did

1197
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:50,000
mention another experience

1198
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:52,560
the implication from it like

1199
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:54,160
i wasn't totally tuned out i was

1200
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:57,359
watching but it was it didn't hold my

1201
00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:59,119
attention in a way that was like chapter

1202
00:47:01,829 --> 00:47:00,079
being

1203
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:01,839
the the implication i got from it was

1204
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,480
that the the experience of being back at

1205
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:06,800
the school and

1206
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:10,079
being back in you know yeah

1207
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:11,520
yeah i can only imagine like the

1208
00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:14,480
pathways that's opening up in her brain

1209
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:16,240
after having not been there for decades

1210
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,240
like to be passed out i had the same

1211
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:20,880
experience i i took my son to my the

1212
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:23,040
school that i went to when i was a kid

1213
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:25,440
he he went to nursery school there right

1214
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:27,440
and and the first time i was back in

1215
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:29,760
like the gym and walking through the

1216
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:31,359
halls of that school because i spent

1217
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:33,280
nine years there

1218
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:35,520
it was emotional for me and i was

1219
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:38,000
walking through remembering every uh all

1220
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:40,400
the people and the other kids and the

1221
00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:42,079
you know everything that happened i went

1222
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,599
to catholic school and the nuns used to

1223
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:46,079
beat us brianna okay well that's worth

1224
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:51,750
i was like oh that's where sister

1225
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:55,760
cracker smack smacked the [\h__\h] out of me

1226
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:58,000
and that was the vibe i got from cynthia

1227
00:48:02,550 --> 00:47:59,119
hind

1228
00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:02,560
you know kari is like right

1229
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:05,119
all of the kids acted weird but for me i

1230
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:06,480
looked to her and was like she beats

1231
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:08,880
these kids with the ruler like the

1232
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:10,960
teachers are moving they said

1233
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:12,480
one teacher they're like oh you were

1234
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:15,760
strict but you were fair

1235
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:17,280
that means she only smacked the kids

1236
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:19,040
that needed it right well it was the

1237
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:22,400
move on the mufon ladies

1238
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:23,839
yeah

1239
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:27,359
remember that everybody into this is a

1240
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:29,920
little whack-a-doo right i'm a little

1241
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:30,559
yeah

1242
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:32,880
you're a little crazy brianna rural

1243
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:34,880
definition of being a woman for sure

1244
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:36,480
you're crazy

1245
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:39,040
i am very crazy too we're all a little

1246
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:42,319
crazy apparently i'm spicy

1247
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:46,160
that's spicy that's the kite no i um

1248
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:48,960
i wrote this one down because uh somehow

1249
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:51,680
in the documentary alan dershowitz turns

1250
00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:54,079
up for like 20 seconds

1251
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:56,000
but you actually have a statue of a big

1252
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:57,520
ass

1253
00:49:02,710 --> 00:48:59,599
oh no it's a candle

1254
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:02,720
it's an ass candle nice i hope it's not

1255
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:05,680
a scented candle

1256
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:08,079
unfortunately brianna's got an ass

1257
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:10,240
candle nice oh yeah i've got an ass

1258
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:13,280
candle and a vagina painting i am

1259
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:16,800
not afraid of my feminine body

1260
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:18,319
i'm afraid are you afraid of your

1261
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:20,480
feminine body i'm just challenging

1262
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:22,160
everyone's beliefs these days i think

1263
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,559
steven's afraid of his feminism listen

1264
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:26,480
you know people people can say whatever

1265
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,400
they want but when i was younger i was

1266
00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:30,480
into all the androgyny and gender

1267
00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:32,720
bending so i have fully embraced both

1268
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:34,800
sides of my personality at various times

1269
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:37,040
in my life but now i'm comfortable being

1270
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:39,359
you know i'm glad i'm good i'm glad you

1271
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:40,079
are

1272
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:44,319
good with being you man good to you

1273
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:46,160
see we're all learning here

1274
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:46,960
so

1275
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:48,960
all love it's all good

1276
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,119
anyway so i was making something oh yeah

1277
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:53,599
sorry i was saying something brie yes

1278
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,800
alan dershowitz turns up and has a point

1279
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,400
in in in

1280
00:50:02,549 --> 00:50:00,400
culture and kind of nomenclature about

1281
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,559
experiences

1282
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:04,400
there's a lot less stigma around

1283
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:06,960
religious experiences where angels come

1284
00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:09,920
down and have contact than when aliens

1285
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:12,559
come down and have contact like they can

1286
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:14,640
be the exactly the same experience but

1287
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:16,640
just the word is changed and it changes

1288
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:18,160
the whole connotation even though the

1289
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:21,040
experience remains the same

1290
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:22,400
i i just thought that was a really

1291
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:24,800
interesting point in terms of how we

1292
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,200
categorize experiences

1293
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:29,200
yeah and a lot of times a religious

1294
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:31,200
experience and an alien experience are

1295
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:33,920
pretty similar or even intertwined a lot

1296
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,040
of people don't know this but the

1297
00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:37,280
children at fatima who saw what they

1298
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:40,559
believed to be the blessed mother mary

1299
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:43,200
there was also a mass ufo sighting that

1300
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:44,000
was

1301
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:46,160
witnessed by hundreds of people

1302
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:49,440
a sphere a golden sphere in the sky

1303
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:50,720
and uh

1304
00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:53,040
who knows who those kids were seeing you

1305
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:55,359
know it was their interpretation being a

1306
00:50:59,589 --> 00:50:57,359
religious catholic

1307
00:51:01,349 --> 00:50:59,599
children maybe that it was uh the

1308
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:01,359
blessed mother and

1309
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:03,040
for all we know it was

1310
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:05,920
the same alien lady that the bledsoe guy

1311
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,400
sees right

1312
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:10,400
oh i've heard stories

1313
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,640
yeah but

1314
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:14,640
well you have to take into consideration

1315
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:16,640
that i mean people only know what they

1316
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:18,480
have context to so i think when people

1317
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:20,480
see something for the first time and

1318
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:22,079
they don't know especially if it doesn't

1319
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,160
fit into their own

1320
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:26,720
belief systems i mean it can be

1321
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:29,520
paradigm shifting if they let it be if

1322
00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:32,400
not then they mold that experience to

1323
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:34,720
fit what they know

1324
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:36,800
sure yeah and maybe as people are

1325
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:39,040
mentioning it was peak amy collins was

1326
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:41,520
peak gray alien around 1994. and that

1327
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:43,359
might be because of communion and other

1328
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:45,040
things so maybe the children were

1329
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:46,880
influenced by culture

1330
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:48,800
child is watching that

1331
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:50,720
i would think in zimbabwe they were a

1332
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,040
little removed from american culture and

1333
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:55,440
that was mostly an american phenomenon i

1334
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:58,559
think the grey aliens and all that stuff

1335
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:00,079
the end of the first season of the

1336
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:03,440
x-files and uh aired in like may 94

1337
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:06,079
which was all about the the erlenmeyer

1338
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:07,839
flask with the gray alien so it was it

1339
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:11,440
was like pumped out into mass torture

1340
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:14,800
i'm curious about the uh did you did did

1341
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:17,359
the you two think that the ending it was

1342
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:19,440
like sort of anticlimactic it was just

1343
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:20,240
like

1344
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:22,319
yeah this happened

1345
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:24,400
i don't know what it was

1346
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:25,920
thanks for watching

1347
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,559
and there was no you know uh i would

1348
00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:30,559
have liked to see the adult the children

1349
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:32,480
as adults interviewed with

1350
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:33,599
more

1351
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:35,839
i don't know drilling down like what did

1352
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:37,920
you think this means

1353
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:39,440
you know uh

1354
00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:42,000
how has this changed your life and it

1355
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:44,800
just seemed like it was just like

1356
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:47,200
it wasn't but i don't know how i would

1357
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,359
have ended it if it was my film you know

1358
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:51,200
like what do you do with that what if

1359
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:53,280
they did see like let's just say they

1360
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:55,839
saw an alien spaceship that landed they

1361
00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:56,720
saw

1362
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:58,400
people uh

1363
00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:00,800
aliens get out of the craft or get back

1364
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:02,640
in it and and whatever

1365
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,839
and uh

1366
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:06,000
what do you do with that like

1367
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:08,079
what is that

1368
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:09,359
i i don't know what you would do with

1369
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,150
fairy me fear

1370
00:53:20,549 --> 00:53:19,270
you know and also that girl that uh

1371
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:20,559
emily

1372
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:23,839
the one that i kept hoping for more from

1373
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:27,119
she i kept waiting for them to sit down

1374
00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:29,920
with her and her talk about it and she

1375
00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:31,520
never did

1376
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:34,400
and the only parts we have of children

1377
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:36,960
of all the kids stories are really in

1378
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:39,599
tiny bits it's like a sentence here two

1379
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:42,079
sentences here a sentence here we don't

1380
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:44,960
have an overall picture of one person

1381
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:47,440
sitting down and going through all of it

1382
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:50,160
and i i would have liked to see that

1383
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:52,960
because you take a couple sentences

1384
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:55,599
and then you put it all together

1385
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:57,280
to make what you want people to see

1386
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:01,040
opposed to hearing the entire story

1387
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:03,440
but that's what documentaries do a lot

1388
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:05,359
of the time they just take bits and

1389
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:07,920
pieces from people and then it kind of

1390
00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:09,520
fits whatever story they want to tell

1391
00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:11,119
you

1392
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:12,720
unfortunately

1393
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:15,040
yeah you may be right and and i seem to

1394
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:17,040
recall and i looked for it but i can't

1395
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:20,240
find it i do recall that there was a

1396
00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:22,800
female witness to this

1397
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:25,599
that did sort of like expand and i'm

1398
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:27,520
gonna keep looking for it because i

1399
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:30,480
think one of these children expanded and

1400
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,720
sort of made claims that they were in

1401
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:34,960
new communication with aliens but of

1402
00:54:38,790 --> 00:54:37,040
course they were working ufo conferences

1403
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:38,800
as best as i recall

1404
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:43,990
that's a whole nother avenue to explore

1405
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:46,079
because at least one of the witnesses is

1406
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:47,680
claiming

1407
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:50,160
adding on to the story that's the only

1408
00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:52,559
thing that i remember

1409
00:54:58,790 --> 00:54:54,559
the rest it seems like the story hasn't

1410
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,510
none of it has changed

1411
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:03,760
now

1412
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:05,680
none of it's changed since the initial

1413
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:06,400
like

1414
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:08,880
chunk from experience to john mack

1415
00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:10,400
leaving

1416
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:12,079
and then there was there wasn't really

1417
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,520
much after that because obviously their

1418
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:15,040
kids in school they can't just spend

1419
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:17,040
their entire life talking about an event

1420
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:19,200
but

1421
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:22,640
would go back and watch yourself no my

1422
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:23,440
my

1423
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:28,400
what was added in

1424
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:31,280
after the initial interviews

1425
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:35,040
because it does evolve from it

1426
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:37,040
it started off with we saw this thing

1427
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:38,880
there running across the field to by the

1428
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:40,160
end of it it's

1429
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:41,760
there was a telepathic message and i

1430
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:43,359
want to ask him questions why are you

1431
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:44,400
here

1432
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,520
the process because

1433
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:51,440
surely these things would have been

1434
00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:53,839
at least hinted at in the first place

1435
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:56,319
instead of it being like a

1436
00:56:01,589 --> 00:55:59,760
they got the gotcha at the end and

1437
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:01,599
you know

1438
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:04,640
they get what they wanted they frame it

1439
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:05,760
in the way they wanted and then they

1440
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,880
leave

1441
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:08,640
so

1442
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:10,960
i'm not convinced

1443
00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:15,119
real

1444
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:17,760
but i'm not i'm not 100

1445
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:20,720
percent convinced that the investigation

1446
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:22,799
was done properly i mean one of my notes

1447
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:26,160
here is homemade geiger counter

1448
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:28,640
like the the mufon lady who turned up

1449
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:30,799
for the second interview so they did the

1450
00:56:34,710 --> 00:56:32,960
first one with the bbc guy mufon lady

1451
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:34,720
turns up she gets a guy to go out there

1452
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:36,720
with a homemade geiger counter and i'm

1453
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:38,880
like well yeah

1454
00:56:41,829 --> 00:56:40,000
yeah

1455
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:41,839
how do you how do you know that you're

1456
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:44,079
getting the right reading there but at

1457
00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:46,400
least they've reported that

1458
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:49,359
um that it was normal

1459
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:50,720
you know they could have used that

1460
00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:53,760
opportunity to say oh the meters are off

1461
00:57:00,549 --> 00:56:57,200
the chain it's just crazy at least they

1462
00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:02,230
maybe it was a case of they knew they

1463
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:03,920
couldn't use it because it's just it's

1464
00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:05,760
not a legitimate geiger counter but if

1465
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:07,280
they got anomalous readings they would

1466
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,720
have then spent the money but they

1467
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,160
didn't get any readings so they didn't

1468
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:12,960
spend the money to have one come out

1469
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:15,760
i'm curious yeah something like that

1470
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:18,079
so let's separate

1471
00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:21,359
the original story from the kids

1472
00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:24,640
right they all saw this thing land um

1473
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:26,559
kind of blinking in it out

1474
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:28,079
they saw the beings move around

1475
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:30,400
strangely let's separate that from the

1476
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:33,599
telepathic aspect once john mack enters

1477
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:35,760
the building right if we kick that out

1478
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:38,160
what about the main story do you believe

1479
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,839
that part

1480
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:41,520
yeah and i saw charlie weiser in the

1481
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:43,760
livestream yeah uh and i i've asked

1482
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:47,520
charlie weiser she charlie has a uh

1483
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:49,520
a debunk thread on twitter and i'm

1484
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:51,119
trying to find it right now talk about

1485
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:52,480
being uh

1486
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:54,559
so if you have a link to that charlie

1487
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:56,960
send me the link to the thread where you

1488
00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:58,960
talk about the inconsistencies in the

1489
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:01,440
story and the problems with it

1490
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:04,079
that might be helpful

1491
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:05,920
uh because

1492
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:07,520
you know i guess if

1493
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:09,680
it depends this whole this whole story

1494
00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:11,680
it's like how you look at it because

1495
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:13,280
i've seen skeptics just go well they're

1496
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:15,520
children you can't believe what they say

1497
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:18,160
i don't want to go that far but i think

1498
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:19,920
that a children's testimony might be

1499
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:25,670
i think that

1500
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:27,440
initial interview like i was saying

1501
00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:28,960
debris earlier like

1502
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,799
you've got all these kids around in a

1503
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:32,640
group right and they're telling the

1504
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:34,799
story to the camera

1505
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:36,880
if i feel like if

1506
00:58:41,349 --> 00:58:39,839
a detail was gone wrong

1507
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:41,359
all of the other kids would be like no

1508
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,880
no no no it happened like this because

1509
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:44,559
it's kind of a collective memory at that

1510
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:46,319
point there's still a group in the group

1511
00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:49,359
dynamic whereas after that they're all

1512
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:51,680
taken individually and you see like the

1513
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:54,559
anxiety and builder in them over time to

1514
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:55,839
the point where at the end they look

1515
00:58:59,589 --> 00:58:57,280
pretty traumatized by the whole

1516
00:59:02,150 --> 00:58:59,599
experience whereas that first one

1517
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,160
they're still in their

1518
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:04,720
they're still in that bubble of being

1519
00:59:08,309 --> 00:59:06,480
we're just school kids

1520
00:59:10,870 --> 00:59:08,319
not school kids with a thing that's

1521
00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:10,880
going on it's just they're just

1522
00:59:15,380 --> 00:59:12,799
in their own little social bubble that

1523
00:59:16,829 --> 00:59:15,390
they're developing in

1524
00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:16,839
[Music]

1525
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:20,079
yeah yeah and um

1526
00:59:25,349 --> 00:59:22,400
it to me it's interesting that

1527
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:25,359
before john was there being the initial

1528
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:26,559
ones

1529
00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:29,359
almost all of the people at least within

1530
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:32,240
the documentary

1531
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:35,200
almost all of them talked about singing

1532
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:38,720
like a bright silvery um like a point or

1533
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:41,520
flashes in the sky first

1534
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:44,160
then the ufo some of them say that it

1535
00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:46,160
just lowers but another one they're

1536
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:48,960
saying that it lands in the rocks

1537
00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:50,720
those right you transcribe their exact

1538
00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:54,079
words right i tran i did i wrote first

1539
01:00:00,150 --> 00:59:56,559
last name the grade that they're in and

1540
01:00:02,069 --> 01:00:00,160
every word that they used so yeah

1541
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:02,079
i've got the charlie weiser thread and

1542
01:00:06,789 --> 01:00:03,920
this will kill a lot of people's

1543
01:00:08,549 --> 01:00:06,799
excitement about the case

1544
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:08,559
i'm gonna leave

1545
01:00:12,829 --> 01:00:11,680
i know we have to be fair to both sides

1546
01:00:15,430 --> 01:00:12,839
show both

1547
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,440
sides aerial phenomenon a labor of love

1548
01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:17,040
for witnesses and fans of the story

1549
01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:19,680
using the sending of voices

1550
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:23,040
aloud uh nickerson's background informs

1551
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,440
his belief this was aliens

1552
01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:27,119
he has no emotional or financial

1553
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:29,119
incentive to be balanced a threat on

1554
01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:31,440
what i learned from watching the film

1555
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:33,200
adults standing by a story they believed

1556
01:00:38,069 --> 01:00:36,160
as kids isn't persuasive charlie says

1557
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:38,079
yes it's affected them no time doesn't

1558
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:40,079
improve memory there is no independent

1559
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:42,400
testimony then there's none now

1560
01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:44,559
they're in touch via a facebook group so

1561
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:46,160
that's interesting the children are all

1562
01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:48,960
communicating on a facebook group still

1563
01:00:52,069 --> 01:00:50,799
the kids initial testimony is the best

1564
01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:52,079
we have

1565
01:00:56,230 --> 01:00:54,480
not once in the film is the possibility

1566
01:00:58,390 --> 01:00:56,240
raised let alone explored that the kids

1567
01:01:00,710 --> 01:00:58,400
were mistaken on what they saw i think

1568
01:01:02,870 --> 01:01:00,720
that's fair they didn't raise that

1569
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:02,880
initial reports of the monday tuesday

1570
01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:05,440
after the incident are unremarkable a

1571
01:01:08,829 --> 01:01:07,760
glinting disc two normal-sized men doing

1572
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:08,839
nothing

1573
01:01:13,750 --> 01:01:11,760
inhuman no floating three foot tall

1574
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:13,760
aliens no running in slow motion no

1575
01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:15,200
looping or winking in and out of

1576
01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:17,680
existence no aliens coming close no

1577
01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:20,400
telepathic messages so kari you raised

1578
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:22,079
the point about what was the difference

1579
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:24,640
between the initial testimony and the

1580
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:26,720
later testimony and it does seem like

1581
01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:28,400
the testimony got

1582
01:01:32,549 --> 01:01:29,280
more

1583
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:32,559
you know

1584
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:35,760
maybe embellished yeah more fantastic as

1585
01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:38,400
the question was this after cynthia

1586
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:40,000
holmes turned up

1587
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:41,040
yes

1588
01:01:48,549 --> 01:01:46,720
start asking questions did you get guys

1589
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:48,559
oh one of the children says i thought

1590
01:01:52,789 --> 01:01:50,640
maybe it was a gardener and they cut

1591
01:01:54,390 --> 01:01:52,799
that from the film that's problematic

1592
01:01:57,030 --> 01:01:54,400
for me yeah

1593
01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:57,040
auto mission which if if true seems

1594
01:02:01,030 --> 01:01:58,880
important two witnesses now assert they

1595
01:02:02,950 --> 01:02:01,040
came within arm's reach of the alien no

1596
01:02:05,030 --> 01:02:02,960
child reported seeing this does

1597
01:02:08,390 --> 01:02:05,040
nickerson not find this credible enough

1598
01:02:11,109 --> 01:02:08,400
to include not even from emily trim

1599
01:02:13,109 --> 01:02:11,119
whose trip back to lua is heavily

1600
01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:13,119
featured

1601
01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:14,000
uh

1602
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:15,839
and there's more

1603
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:17,200
nothing about the craft leaving in

1604
01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:19,200
recent interviews nickerson says no one

1605
01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:22,480
saw it leave because they all yes all

1606
01:02:26,789 --> 01:02:24,720
went screaming at the teachers so that

1607
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:26,799
is some the question that i have too

1608
01:02:31,829 --> 01:02:29,440
they didn't see the craft take off or

1609
01:02:34,549 --> 01:02:31,839
disappear it was just gone

1610
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:34,559
yet some kids did report it disappearing

1611
01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:37,839
does nickerson not find them credible

1612
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:40,799
tim leach always portrayed uh

1613
01:02:45,030 --> 01:02:43,119
as a hardened warzone reporter did not

1614
01:02:47,109 --> 01:02:45,040
exactly approach this skeptically from

1615
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:47,119
day one he assumed the african sightings

1616
01:02:51,430 --> 01:02:48,720
were a ufo

1617
01:02:55,510 --> 01:02:51,440
this is for real and what the ufo was

1618
01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:55,520
directly related to ariel so i guess the

1619
01:02:59,270 --> 01:02:57,680
perspective is important

1620
01:03:00,069 --> 01:02:59,280
you know you can have two journalists

1621
01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:00,079
one

1622
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:03,599
skeptical and you'll get two different

1623
01:03:07,190 --> 01:03:05,280
stories i think

1624
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:07,200
uh charlie wiser goes on to say like

1625
01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:09,200
most of the teachers at ariel dr john

1626
01:03:13,270 --> 01:03:11,599
mack and leach couldn't wrap their heads

1627
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:13,280
around the idea that kids might have

1628
01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:15,200
been mistaken especially in the context

1629
01:03:20,789 --> 01:03:18,880
of ufo mania sweeping southern africa it

1630
01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:20,799
just never comes up

1631
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:22,720
various comments by the teachers again

1632
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:24,640
focused on whether the kids are lying

1633
01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:27,200
show a surprising lack of insight into

1634
01:03:31,109 --> 01:03:29,520
child behavior children know when other

1635
01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:31,119
children are conning them maybe this

1636
01:03:36,150 --> 01:03:34,000
woman didn't have older siblings

1637
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:36,160
dr mapp outlines the straw man that

1638
01:03:39,510 --> 01:03:37,680
fuels the last part of the film that

1639
01:03:41,589 --> 01:03:39,520
humanity can't handle the blow to the

1640
01:03:43,829 --> 01:03:41,599
ego of not being the most intelligent or

1641
01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:43,839
advanced creatures of the cosmos did he

1642
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:45,680
only hang out with young earth

1643
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:47,680
creationists

1644
01:03:51,029 --> 01:03:48,960
and uh

1645
01:03:52,789 --> 01:03:51,039
charlie says i've said it

1646
01:03:54,470 --> 01:03:52,799
before i've never met a skeptic who

1647
01:03:57,750 --> 01:03:54,480
asserts we're alone in the universe or

1648
01:03:59,109 --> 01:03:57,760
isn't curious about et life

1649
01:04:02,150 --> 01:03:59,119
and this is a

1650
01:04:03,829 --> 01:04:02,160
another thread aerial school sighting

1651
01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:03,839
looked briefly at the earliest footage

1652
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:06,160
of interviews with the kids dr

1653
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:09,280
mack interviewed them 2.5 months later

1654
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:11,280
that's a problem for me

1655
01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:14,400
2.5 months is a long time to uh right

1656
01:04:19,109 --> 01:04:17,440
wait between interviews

1657
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:19,119
yeah so

1658
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:21,280
was there once though are you sure it

1659
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:24,000
wasn't like 2.5 months from the last

1660
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:26,640
interview till when matthew yeah charlie

1661
01:04:31,029 --> 01:04:28,559
weiser was in the live chat maybe she

1662
01:04:32,789 --> 01:04:31,039
knows and can clarify that but

1663
01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:32,799
uh i can't imagine him back i have a

1664
01:04:36,870 --> 01:04:34,960
question

1665
01:04:39,589 --> 01:04:36,880
i i was sitting just thinking about the

1666
01:04:42,309 --> 01:04:39,599
scenario so like

1667
01:04:44,309 --> 01:04:42,319
the the chain of events of the of the of

1668
01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:44,319
the experience oh no so it was 2.5

1669
01:04:49,029 --> 01:04:46,960
months mac only went once 2.5 months

1670
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:49,039
after the initial encounter

1671
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:51,440
so it starts off with with the younger

1672
01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:52,480
kids

1673
01:04:59,029 --> 01:04:55,680
really upset looking at this thing

1674
01:05:01,029 --> 01:04:59,039
all the kids come running over

1675
01:05:03,029 --> 01:05:01,039
why would the smaller kids have started

1676
01:05:05,430 --> 01:05:03,039
crying and being super upset because

1677
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:05,440
that was the chain trigger for everyone

1678
01:05:08,630 --> 01:05:06,880
else running over was the fact that

1679
01:05:10,470 --> 01:05:08,640
these kids were upset

1680
01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:10,480
the men in black

1681
01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:12,480
well i'm just

1682
01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:14,160
i'm thinking about like this time

1683
01:05:18,549 --> 01:05:15,839
dilation idea like

1684
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:18,559
could it have had worse effects on

1685
01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:20,240
younger kids

1686
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:22,000
giving them like this feeling of unease

1687
01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:23,200
and that's why they freaked out and

1688
01:05:26,789 --> 01:05:24,880
started crying and

1689
01:05:28,789 --> 01:05:26,799
and stuff and then you know the older

1690
01:05:30,870 --> 01:05:28,799
kids then run down to see what's going

1691
01:05:32,309 --> 01:05:30,880
on and now they're inside the field i

1692
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:32,319
don't know

1693
01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:33,920
it's just

1694
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:35,760
this is problematic because

1695
01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:38,160
mac interviewed them charlie weiser says

1696
01:05:42,630 --> 01:05:40,400
2.5 months later

1697
01:05:44,069 --> 01:05:42,640
and for those that don't know

1698
01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:44,079
charlie wiser is one of those people

1699
01:05:48,069 --> 01:05:45,599
that when they when they make a

1700
01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:48,079
statement i trust that they're the

1701
01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:50,720
charlie's information is accurate uh so

1702
01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:53,440
they interviewed them once 2.5 months

1703
01:05:57,349 --> 01:05:54,960
later and that was the first time

1704
01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:57,359
telepathic messages was mentioned

1705
01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:59,200
and that's problematic for me because

1706
01:06:03,029 --> 01:06:01,200
i'm sure mac had talked to alien

1707
01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:03,039
abduction victims that claimed that they

1708
01:06:07,270 --> 01:06:05,039
were being communicated with

1709
01:06:09,190 --> 01:06:07,280
telepathically this could have been more

1710
01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:09,200
leading questions like

1711
01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:11,200
did they you know

1712
01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:13,039
and the 2.5 months

1713
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:15,359
you know

1714
01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:17,119
go so go do something with your

1715
01:06:22,549 --> 01:06:20,160
six-year-old and then ask him

1716
01:06:25,349 --> 01:06:22,559
tell me about what we did today and then

1717
01:06:27,750 --> 01:06:25,359
wait 2.5 months and ask the same

1718
01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:27,760
six-year-old tell me about what we did

1719
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:28,799
that day

1720
01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:30,640
you're gonna get a wildly different

1721
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:32,960
story so yeah that's because he only

1722
01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:36,160
went to africa one time i mean

1723
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:38,559
he who knows why it took him that long

1724
01:06:42,309 --> 01:06:40,799
to get here or to get there

1725
01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:42,319
well there's a guy ahead of harvard but

1726
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:44,319
it wasn't like he went to africa had the

1727
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:46,960
conversation left and then came back 2.5

1728
01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:48,720
months later and asked him again and

1729
01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:51,039
then was more leading i mean it's all in

1730
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:52,559
the same interview

1731
01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:55,520
mac like mac

1732
01:07:00,950 --> 01:06:56,640
yeah

1733
01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:00,960
mystery and i i

1734
01:07:06,549 --> 01:07:04,079
i believe that maybe they did see

1735
01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:06,559
something otherworldly because i i i

1736
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:09,039
can't explain this one away as skeptical

1737
01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:11,280
as i am about many stories

1738
01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:13,440
they're just you know like if you know

1739
01:07:18,390 --> 01:07:15,520
like the let's take for example this

1740
01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:18,400
public explanation like if somebody had

1741
01:07:23,349 --> 01:07:21,280
found a puppeteer and interviewed them

1742
01:07:26,950 --> 01:07:23,359
and they said yeah we were going through

1743
01:07:29,670 --> 01:07:26,960
that area with our van and the van broke

1744
01:07:32,710 --> 01:07:29,680
down or something and you know

1745
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:32,720
okay but just to throw out like it was a

1746
01:07:37,990 --> 01:07:35,359
van with puppeteers that's not that's

1747
01:07:39,670 --> 01:07:38,000
not a valid explanation it makes no

1748
01:07:40,829 --> 01:07:39,680
sense and

1749
01:07:43,670 --> 01:07:40,839
we have no

1750
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:43,680
other way to explain away what these

1751
01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:45,200
children saw

1752
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:48,640
except maybe that a few children

1753
01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:51,520
told a story and then would 50 other

1754
01:07:55,990 --> 01:07:53,920
children just jump on the story when

1755
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:56,000
they saw the parents and the attention

1756
01:07:58,630 --> 01:07:56,720
that

1757
01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:58,640
the first few were getting maybe but it

1758
01:08:03,670 --> 01:07:59,760
seems

1759
01:08:08,069 --> 01:08:03,680
unrealistic that that would be the case

1760
01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:08,079
yeah i'm more inclined to split the case

1761
01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:11,440
like when i asked kari i

1762
01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:13,520
personally believe the first part

1763
01:08:16,630 --> 01:08:15,359
because i think that there are too many

1764
01:08:18,390 --> 01:08:16,640
children

1765
01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:18,400
and i think that

1766
01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:20,560
even if some of the very like the way

1767
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:22,319
that they described it varied a little

1768
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:24,960
bit overall they're all saying the same

1769
01:08:27,910 --> 01:08:26,159
things

1770
01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:27,920
and i actually believe children a lot

1771
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,719
more than i believe adults i think that

1772
01:08:34,630 --> 01:08:32,400
i'm with you guys

1773
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:34,640
i think that adults have reasoning

1774
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:36,480
behind things and a lot of the time

1775
01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:38,719
children just blurt out what they see

1776
01:08:42,309 --> 01:08:40,480
yeah the only time children lie to you

1777
01:08:43,990 --> 01:08:42,319
is when they have a fake phone and they

1778
01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:44,000
hand your phone and they say somebody's

1779
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:45,920
on the phone that's a lie but they're

1780
01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:47,040
just playing

1781
01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:48,640
but you're right like children can

1782
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:51,839
sometimes be uh painfully honest

1783
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:54,640
painfully honest right yeah and adults

1784
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:56,319
are always thinking of what are the

1785
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:58,080
implications of this uh what do they

1786
01:09:01,349 --> 01:08:59,759
want me to say or what's gonna happen

1787
01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:01,359
how is this gonna affect my life who's

1788
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:03,520
gonna hear this adults think about all

1789
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:05,120
those things when it comes to answering

1790
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:07,359
a question and i think children

1791
01:09:12,630 --> 01:09:08,960
don't

1792
01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:12,640
but it is suspicious to me with with mac

1793
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:14,560
and that to me is just a little bit

1794
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:16,480
unclear so i'm

1795
01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:18,400
not i i don't know how to feel about

1796
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:20,719
that there's two that's a little bit too

1797
01:09:24,550 --> 01:09:22,239
much

1798
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:24,560
i agree enzo that that

1799
01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:26,640
usually i agree with

1800
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:29,199
most of what certain skeptics have to

1801
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:31,279
say who generally are well researched

1802
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:32,880
but sometimes they just throw things out

1803
01:09:37,510 --> 01:09:35,279
there you know and i mean it's possible

1804
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:37,520
that's a possibility that it was some

1805
01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:39,040
random van

1806
01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:41,279
with pup you know a guy with puppets but

1807
01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:43,199
that doesn't make any sense because

1808
01:09:46,149 --> 01:09:44,880
given the attention that the case got

1809
01:09:48,550 --> 01:09:46,159
you would think that person would come

1810
01:09:49,910 --> 01:09:48,560
forward and say i was me i was messing

1811
01:09:52,309 --> 01:09:49,920
with the kids

1812
01:09:55,189 --> 01:09:52,319
yeah whatever right

1813
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:55,199
i'm just in the middle of the of nowhere

1814
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:57,120
just looking baker says the principal

1815
01:10:01,189 --> 01:09:59,280
was a huge ufo fan no teachers as

1816
01:10:02,709 --> 01:10:01,199
witnesses during freaking recess when

1817
01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:02,719
they should have been watching

1818
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:04,719
sounds like a hoax to me

1819
01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:06,480
it could be could very well be that

1820
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:08,880
somebody staged that event with

1821
01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:11,760
you know some kind of fake craft or a

1822
01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:14,880
big silver balloon or something you know

1823
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:22,390
yeah and the school didn't exactly

1824
01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:24,080
profit from they didn't get any

1825
01:10:27,669 --> 01:10:25,600
financial

1826
01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:27,679
gain from doing this or anything like

1827
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:28,880
that if

1828
01:10:34,709 --> 01:10:32,000
if anything it was kind of uh you know

1829
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:34,719
problematic for them because then they

1830
01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:37,040
besides the bbc reporter i'm sure other

1831
01:10:42,310 --> 01:10:39,040
reporters came and annoyed them for the

1832
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:53,350
no return

1833
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:55,350
okay it was somebody else gideon who

1834
01:11:00,470 --> 01:10:58,080
wrote the puppet hypothesis is updating

1835
01:11:02,709 --> 01:11:00,480
it with part two this friday well send

1836
01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:02,719
that to me when send me the link to the

1837
01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:06,800
original puppet hypothesis and uh i will

1838
01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:08,560
look at both of them

1839
01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:09,760
uh

1840
01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:11,360
a bunch of children charlie weiser says

1841
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:13,040
not plausible that the principal or

1842
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:16,159
teachers were involved

1843
01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:18,640
i i i agree

1844
01:11:23,590 --> 01:11:19,920
i don't think that the principals and

1845
01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:25,270
there's another possibility could it

1846
01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:28,080
have been like a silver vehicle that

1847
01:11:33,350 --> 01:11:30,560
these children were unfamiliar with and

1848
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:33,360
midgets driving it

1849
01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:34,400
dwarfs

1850
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:37,040
could be right like they got out

1851
01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:39,600
picked up some rocks and then they drove

1852
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:42,239
off who knows you know there's dwarfs in

1853
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:43,520
every country i mean

1854
01:11:47,910 --> 01:11:45,679
i guess like the these are it's not

1855
01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:47,920
outside the realm of extreme possibility

1856
01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:49,360
but yeah but this is all just

1857
01:11:54,630 --> 01:11:52,080
speculation we don't have anything

1858
01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:54,640
what's the most rational i think that

1859
01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:57,920
midgets or excuse me little people

1860
01:12:02,950 --> 01:12:00,159
i'm gonna get emails about that

1861
01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:02,960
uh little people in a silver vehicle

1862
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:04,640
that these children weren't familiar

1863
01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:05,840
with

1864
01:12:13,270 --> 01:12:08,560
is just as good a possibility as puppets

1865
01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:15,189
but i think that they definitely saw

1866
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:21,270
not ordinary that's for sure this is not

1867
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:23,600
something that kids in school see every

1868
01:12:28,229 --> 01:12:24,640
day

1869
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:28,239
i just wish that there was more uh

1870
01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:30,080
more meat on the bones there because

1871
01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:31,920
what we get with this story is what we

1872
01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:33,760
get with a lot of stories we have

1873
01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:35,760
witness testimony

1874
01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:39,280
and that's pretty much it and that's

1875
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:41,679
i always want more you know like i want

1876
01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:43,040
some physical

1877
01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:46,320
right proof picture video something you

1878
01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:48,800
know this is that this is why i want i

1879
01:12:52,709 --> 01:12:50,880
wanted them to go out there with a

1880
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:52,719
freaking guy account that wasn't

1881
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:54,800
homemade

1882
01:12:58,149 --> 01:12:56,640
like if you're going to be investigating

1883
01:13:02,229 --> 01:12:58,159
the daily mail

1884
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:02,239
don't know the date i shouldn't say that

1885
01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:04,800
uh but i did say that the the daily mail

1886
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:07,040
posted a bunch of pictures that there

1887
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:09,840
was unsurfaced prints

1888
01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:12,480
of the craft landing it looked like

1889
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:14,560
pictures and i didn't see

1890
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:17,440
anything what does unsurfaced prints i

1891
01:13:21,270 --> 01:13:18,480
mean

1892
01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:21,280
like they just researched i get what you

1893
01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:23,199
mean through it and now

1894
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:30,630
like craft footprints i mean i i it

1895
01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:32,960
doesn't look like anything to me

1896
01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:34,560
i think they just kind of took the story

1897
01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:36,719
and i just are just saying that

1898
01:13:40,870 --> 01:13:38,960
um but i don't think it's a coincidence

1899
01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:40,880
that there were other sightings that

1900
01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:43,520
exact same day and those were by

1901
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:46,640
credible people those were by i mean you

1902
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:50,560
have an astronomer and three pilots and

1903
01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:53,280
i mean i know that two pilots

1904
01:13:56,950 --> 01:13:55,360
had called into air traffic control

1905
01:13:59,990 --> 01:13:56,960
because they were experiencing

1906
01:14:02,310 --> 01:14:00,000
interference with the object

1907
01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:02,320
that was flying by them

1908
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:04,560
so this is on the exact same day and

1909
01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:06,480
then there are there is that footage of

1910
01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:07,920
the other

1911
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:08,800
um

1912
01:14:13,910 --> 01:14:11,600
objects whatever was seen yeah and

1913
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:13,920
thanks to ron from cosmic neighbors he

1914
01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:15,920
shared with me this blog with the public

1915
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:18,400
explanation and and i don't know

1916
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:21,040
that i think this is this is pretty out

1917
01:14:26,229 --> 01:14:24,080
there and it's really just speculation

1918
01:14:27,430 --> 01:14:26,239
uh puppet hypothesis i think they saw

1919
01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:27,440
puppets

1920
01:14:30,149 --> 01:14:28,719
there are a number of descriptions in

1921
01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:30,159
the children's remarks that don't appear

1922
01:14:33,030 --> 01:14:31,920
to be influenced by the interviewer the

1923
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:33,040
situation

1924
01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:34,640
pressure to perform for the teachers

1925
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:36,560
television cameras or the expert

1926
01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:38,400
questioners but

1927
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:40,880
that are offered spontaneously and which

1928
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:42,640
support the hypothesis that what the

1929
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:45,360
children observed were puppets

1930
01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:47,760
gray or unusual skin color large had big

1931
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:50,000
eyes scrawny neck long black hair shiny

1932
01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:52,080
black clothing or skin no facial

1933
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:54,239
expressions stiff necks running in slow

1934
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:55,360
motion

1935
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:57,600
wordless communication i think this is a

1936
01:15:02,149 --> 01:15:00,239
big stretch but it does show yeah i'm

1937
01:15:03,270 --> 01:15:02,159
familiar with puppets there are puppets

1938
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:03,280
that

1939
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:10,080
saw what about the flashing and the

1940
01:15:14,630 --> 01:15:11,760
light that they saw they said it was

1941
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:14,640
silver bright metallic in the sky

1942
01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:18,000
at what point do we reach so far to find

1943
01:15:20,790 --> 01:15:19,440
an explanation

1944
01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:20,800
yeah this one's definitely something

1945
01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:22,960
can't be true big reach this is a big

1946
01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:25,440
reach you know it's possible i find it

1947
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:27,040
interesting there was a sighting that

1948
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:29,040
same day

1949
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:32,159
in in the area of something similar

1950
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:33,760
yeah but you have to be careful with

1951
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:34,880
that

1952
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:37,040
because

1953
01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:39,840
a lot of uh ufo cases are constructed

1954
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:41,760
out of disconnected events that people

1955
01:15:45,110 --> 01:15:43,360
just should treat

1956
01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:45,120
you know

1957
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:46,560
a puppet show

1958
01:15:51,430 --> 01:15:48,960
yeah about aids for children and then he

1959
01:15:53,030 --> 01:15:51,440
shows examples and yeah i mean i guess

1960
01:15:57,270 --> 01:15:53,040
it could have been puppet

1961
01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:57,280
puppetries i'm thinking the ufo they saw

1962
01:16:00,550 --> 01:15:58,560
you know another thing with their

1963
01:16:01,990 --> 01:16:00,560
movement they did say it was in slow

1964
01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:02,000
motion

1965
01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:06,080
but they also described them as gliding

1966
01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:08,159
you're right and that is not the first

1967
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:10,080
time we've ever heard that either that

1968
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:12,640
is also very common uh people that have

1969
01:16:16,709 --> 01:16:14,080
seen other

1970
01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:16,719
beings or abductees they always describe

1971
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:19,920
their movement as gliding like they're

1972
01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:21,920
this is such a long blog post i give the

1973
01:16:26,709 --> 01:16:24,080
guy credit for going this far to try to

1974
01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:26,719
prove that these things were puppets but

1975
01:16:30,229 --> 01:16:28,880
it's a big reach for me it's just too

1976
01:16:32,830 --> 01:16:30,239
big a reach

1977
01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:32,840
and here is a

1978
01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:34,560
image

1979
01:16:38,870 --> 01:16:36,800
no i don't i don't believe that this was

1980
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:38,880
puppets and if that would be bigger than

1981
01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:40,719
a person that wouldn't be a three foot

1982
01:16:45,990 --> 01:16:43,760
tall alien looking thing you know like

1983
01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:46,000
there's just bulging eyes

1984
01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:49,280
i just felt such a long blog post though

1985
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:51,199
this guy really tried just like looking

1986
01:16:56,630 --> 01:16:53,920
at all of us

1987
01:16:59,110 --> 01:16:56,640
they seem to have stiffness

1988
01:17:00,390 --> 01:16:59,120
he put the kids voices over the clip of

1989
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:00,400
the puppets

1990
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:02,880
that's again this is reaching this is

1991
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:04,960
definitely reaching and again

1992
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:06,880
he thinks that the craft that they saw

1993
01:17:14,070 --> 01:17:11,120
where this van or a similar van

1994
01:17:15,750 --> 01:17:14,080
and that's a stretch as well

1995
01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:15,760
yeah and i would think that somebody in

1996
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:17,440
a van would have come forward and said

1997
01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:19,520
that wasn't a spaceship that was our van

1998
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:21,280
or something and

1999
01:17:24,550 --> 01:17:23,120
that case got huge attention it was like

2000
01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:24,560
the biggest thing that ever happened to

2001
01:17:30,390 --> 01:17:25,520
that

2002
01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:33,030
oh according to king charlie uh charlie

2003
01:17:37,669 --> 01:17:35,040
weiser said the aliens were five to five

2004
01:17:39,910 --> 01:17:37,679
six tall as reported by the kids cynthia

2005
01:17:41,510 --> 01:17:39,920
hines reported them as three feet tall

2006
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:41,520
for no reason

2007
01:18:12,470 --> 01:17:42,480
so

2008
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:12,480
one taller than the other

2009
01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:14,480
there was one child that when they're

2010
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:17,280
like how tall was it and it said as tall

2011
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:20,080
as one of the sixth graders

2012
01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:23,040
so they really had no idea they're just

2013
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:27,280
describing the best that they can oh run

2014
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:29,040
cosmic neighbor says we we're just

2015
01:18:32,709 --> 01:18:31,040
dismissing that article because we just

2016
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:32,719
skimmed through it we didn't

2017
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,719
i'll re i did read the whole thing

2018
01:18:38,830 --> 01:18:36,880
previously though and i thought it was i

2019
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:38,840
thought it was a reach it was a big

2020
01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:41,280
stretch and for some reason i i

2021
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:43,199
apologize to mick west for some maybe he

2022
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:45,360
just repeated that or posted it i

2023
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:46,960
thought that was mick west's theory and

2024
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:53,189
too much right did he post it without

2025
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:57,750
true

2026
01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:59,040
damn seventh graders are five people

2027
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:00,960
well i just popped that conversational

2028
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:06,550
listening i'm sorry what did you say

2029
01:19:11,189 --> 01:19:08,000
who are you

2030
01:19:13,430 --> 01:19:11,199
a van full kooky puppets

2031
01:19:15,750 --> 01:19:13,440
oh yeah one child said it was as tall as

2032
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:15,760
a seventh grader which is five feet so

2033
01:19:18,709 --> 01:19:16,960
somehow

2034
01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:18,719
they got turned into three foot tall

2035
01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:20,880
aliens by what if it was some other

2036
01:19:24,310 --> 01:19:23,040
seventh woman's messing around

2037
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:24,320
could have been could have been kids

2038
01:19:28,630 --> 01:19:26,320
playing a prank right or kids there are

2039
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:28,640
short seventh graders too

2040
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:31,040
we have no idea that's so that's so

2041
01:19:35,110 --> 01:19:32,800
vague

2042
01:19:37,669 --> 01:19:35,120
i'm down with michael jackson uh

2043
01:19:38,790 --> 01:19:37,679
hypothesis

2044
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:38,800
do you think it might have been michael

2045
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:44,310
that's what mark he did really like

2046
01:19:58,630 --> 01:19:56,790
ruined my childhood every time i hear

2047
01:20:02,149 --> 01:19:58,640
michael jackson on the radio now i

2048
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:05,270
oh no yeah

2049
01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:07,199
i still like michael and on that bomb

2050
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:08,800
show

2051
01:20:12,550 --> 01:20:10,400
i still like him i'm sorry so we're

2052
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:12,560
taking if anybody has any comments or

2053
01:20:16,709 --> 01:20:14,880
questions for for me or especially for

2054
01:20:19,189 --> 01:20:16,719
our guests because we'll put them on the

2055
01:20:20,709 --> 01:20:19,199
hot seat for once instead of me that

2056
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:20,719
would be great put them in all capital

2057
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:22,960
letters oh if you've got any questions

2058
01:20:28,470 --> 01:20:25,760
for ian crossland in the chat put them

2059
01:20:31,030 --> 01:20:28,480
in the cat this case is one of those

2060
01:20:32,950 --> 01:20:31,040
tanalizing maybe true cases it's

2061
01:20:34,870 --> 01:20:32,960
tantalizing may be true

2062
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:34,880
and i'll take half of it at least

2063
01:20:38,630 --> 01:20:36,880
it reminds me of roswell

2064
01:20:41,189 --> 01:20:38,640
yeah at least you can't debunk the whole

2065
01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:41,199
thing as bull you can't not this one you

2066
01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:43,520
can you know

2067
01:20:47,590 --> 01:20:45,280
you can't if you want to stretch more

2068
01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:47,600
than for an uh explanation rather than

2069
01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:49,920
just taking their word for it i i think

2070
01:20:53,110 --> 01:20:52,320
it's quite illuminating and how

2071
01:20:57,990 --> 01:20:53,120
it

2072
01:21:00,149 --> 01:20:58,000
how we take some people's experiences

2073
01:21:02,470 --> 01:21:00,159
seriously in other people's not

2074
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:02,480
seriously and sometimes like it's like

2075
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:04,560
alan dershowitz said it's like sometimes

2076
01:21:07,350 --> 01:21:06,000
one word can be different and that will

2077
01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:07,360
change the whole contextual

2078
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:09,600
understanding of the person

2079
01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:12,320
you're explaining it to

2080
01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:14,320
i feel like there's a huge problem with

2081
01:21:18,390 --> 01:21:15,920
with that kind of stuff

2082
01:21:20,630 --> 01:21:18,400
so it it definitely opened my own eyes

2083
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:20,640
to like how i would

2084
01:21:25,510 --> 01:21:24,560
listen to an experience sir

2085
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:25,520
it just

2086
01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:28,080
it made me be a bit more patient than

2087
01:21:31,350 --> 01:21:29,679
just going no

2088
01:21:33,030 --> 01:21:31,360
you know having that reaction like

2089
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:33,040
that's

2090
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:36,239
there was a time when i would not want

2091
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:38,960
to talk to or interview any experiencer

2092
01:21:43,750 --> 01:21:40,719
and and i've learned

2093
01:21:46,709 --> 01:21:43,760
the error of my ways with that so i try

2094
01:21:49,510 --> 01:21:46,719
to just listen and uh

2095
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:49,520
absorb it and and see if i can get a

2096
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:51,120
sense of if they're

2097
01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:52,880
you know this is a real experience and

2098
01:21:56,470 --> 01:21:54,560
in many cases the people that i've

2099
01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:56,480
interviewed or talked to

2100
01:22:00,070 --> 01:21:58,480
they've had genuine experience that

2101
01:22:02,149 --> 01:22:00,080
can't be explained

2102
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:02,159
and this is one of those times this is

2103
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:04,080
one of those times yeah

2104
01:22:09,110 --> 01:22:05,760
that's the biggest problem with being an

2105
01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:09,120
experiencer your stories are so crazy

2106
01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:11,440
and no matter who you tell someone's

2107
01:22:15,270 --> 01:22:13,600
going to think that you're just lying or

2108
01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:15,280
you want something

2109
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:17,760
they don't trust experiencers where

2110
01:22:21,510 --> 01:22:19,280
in my point of view

2111
01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:21,520
experiencers are the closest people to

2112
01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:22,840
this

2113
01:22:27,750 --> 01:22:25,679
phenomena uh everyone else is just kind

2114
01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:27,760
of going through paperwork

2115
01:22:30,550 --> 01:22:28,560
so

2116
01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:30,560
uh it's hard though because i know we

2117
01:22:34,709 --> 01:22:33,120
want to keep a skeptical mind open but i

2118
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:34,719
do think that we need to hear people's

2119
01:22:38,390 --> 01:22:36,239
stories because like i said they're the

2120
01:22:40,070 --> 01:22:38,400
ones that are actually involved

2121
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:40,080
you know right they have their first

2122
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:41,920
hand ex and you know

2123
01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:43,760
experience with it everyone else is

2124
01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:45,440
looking from an outside

2125
01:22:49,270 --> 01:22:47,280
uh perspective

2126
01:22:51,830 --> 01:22:49,280
and i'm gonna put a proposal here it

2127
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:51,840
says i'm sorry i'm to put up a poll here

2128
01:22:55,910 --> 01:22:53,840
it says dude i'm sorry

2129
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:55,920
it says did the children's i've seen my

2130
01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:58,159
wife has me well trained you know

2131
01:23:02,629 --> 01:23:00,400
you've got to apologize constantly did

2132
01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:02,639
the children see aliens

2133
01:23:06,950 --> 01:23:04,880
or something else

2134
01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:06,960
let me fix that or

2135
01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:08,960
something else so we'll put a poll up in

2136
01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:10,639
our live chat let us know in the live

2137
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:12,159
chat what do you think did the children

2138
01:23:19,189 --> 01:23:15,360
see aliens or something else

2139
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:19,199
um and and everyone's free to vote uh i

2140
01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:21,840
will pin that in to

2141
01:23:26,950 --> 01:23:24,159
it's pinned at the top there

2142
01:23:28,229 --> 01:23:26,960
so just click the top to uh to answer

2143
01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:28,239
the question

2144
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:30,480
and we appreciate everybody's feedback i

2145
01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:34,320
i i i don't know what they saw i don't

2146
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:37,040
know if it was aliens or something else

2147
01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:40,320
i would like to believe that it was

2148
01:23:43,430 --> 01:23:41,760
i would love to believe that it was

2149
01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:43,440
aliens but even

2150
01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:45,679
if i did believe that it was aliens it's

2151
01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:46,800
kind of

2152
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:50,400
like okay we landed and then we

2153
01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:52,320
telepathically communicated children

2154
01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:55,600
about pollution and then we left

2155
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:57,360
i i would hope that

2156
01:24:02,229 --> 01:23:59,760
super advanced aliens have

2157
01:24:04,629 --> 01:24:02,239
a better agenda when they have contact

2158
01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:04,639
with humans i i did have a little note

2159
01:24:09,590 --> 01:24:06,880
about that so

2160
01:24:11,669 --> 01:24:09,600
as kids they were if say this is all

2161
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:11,679
real right and they had this experience

2162
01:24:16,629 --> 01:24:13,440
and they were telepathically given the

2163
01:24:18,790 --> 01:24:16,639
message of eco-consciousness and saving

2164
01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:18,800
the planet and all this stuff

2165
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:20,639
that's something that

2166
01:24:26,790 --> 01:24:24,080
they seem to carry with them now

2167
01:24:28,790 --> 01:24:26,800
when they they talk about it

2168
01:24:31,270 --> 01:24:28,800
uh it's what i wonder if it's it's kind

2169
01:24:32,709 --> 01:24:31,280
of like

2170
01:24:35,189 --> 01:24:32,719
the the note that i wrote was

2171
01:24:37,590 --> 01:24:35,199
generational message they carry it like

2172
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:37,600
they're carrying this message forward

2173
01:24:42,550 --> 01:24:40,320
through generations from having it given

2174
01:24:45,030 --> 01:24:42,560
to them as children

2175
01:24:46,709 --> 01:24:45,040
if if it's real

2176
01:24:50,500 --> 01:24:46,719
so

2177
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:51,990
[Music]

2178
01:24:55,669 --> 01:24:53,840
pins are flat

2179
01:25:01,830 --> 01:24:55,679
to middle [\h__\h]

2180
01:25:06,870 --> 01:25:04,870
yeah and charlie wiser says ariel aliens

2181
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:06,880
were so dumb they told three kids about

2182
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:08,800
pollution and it had zero effects on

2183
01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:10,320
anything

2184
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:12,480
uh and moody mongol wants to know if

2185
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:14,960
khari has a second life playing mean

2186
01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:15,920
rock

2187
01:25:23,590 --> 01:25:21,430
yeah

2188
01:25:24,950 --> 01:25:23,600
possibly

2189
01:25:26,709 --> 01:25:24,960
somebody's saying

2190
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:26,719
yeah so and then a result i saw

2191
01:25:34,149 --> 01:25:28,320
something about having a twin brother in

2192
01:25:38,390 --> 01:25:35,830
where is it

2193
01:25:42,310 --> 01:25:40,229
here we go does carrie have a twin

2194
01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:42,320
brother going by the stage name joe

2195
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:45,040
bonamassif

2196
01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:46,800
you got me

2197
01:25:51,510 --> 01:25:48,800
that guy's amazing blues guitar player

2198
01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:51,520
you'd be happy to be compared to him i

2199
01:25:57,030 --> 01:25:53,040
haven't heard of him but i'm gonna look

2200
01:26:01,030 --> 01:25:58,709
mack was sent in to clean up the case

2201
01:26:02,310 --> 01:26:01,040
after hein muffed it up that's a good

2202
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:02,320
thought

2203
01:26:06,870 --> 01:26:05,040
was he sent in to go fix the mess that

2204
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:06,880
she made

2205
01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:09,040
by overblowing it

2206
01:26:13,510 --> 01:26:11,760
it could be yeah it definitely could be

2207
01:26:15,510 --> 01:26:13,520
but there you go the fact his very

2208
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:15,520
presence

2209
01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:16,560
just

2210
01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:18,320
kind of blew the whole thing up even

2211
01:26:26,950 --> 01:26:25,110
yeah and uh joe 5d says they want to

2212
01:26:28,310 --> 01:26:26,960
blame humans for anything that goes bad

2213
01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:28,320
with the planet

2214
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:31,600
meanwhile they got all the advanced tech

2215
01:26:37,350 --> 01:26:33,840
you know i i'm always weird about people

2216
01:26:38,950 --> 01:26:37,360
like you know um there's a concept in

2217
01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:38,960
religion

2218
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:41,280
that explains at least in christianity

2219
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:42,719
you know people ask questions like well

2220
01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:44,480
why doesn't god do something about all

2221
01:26:47,350 --> 01:26:46,480
those children with cancer

2222
01:26:50,070 --> 01:26:47,360
and

2223
01:26:52,390 --> 01:26:50,080
cancer may have been a human creation we

2224
01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:52,400
may the cancer may be coming from our

2225
01:26:57,270 --> 01:26:55,280
own human pollution so to

2226
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:57,280
at least the priests that i grew up with

2227
01:27:01,350 --> 01:26:59,360
would tell you that god would prefer us

2228
01:27:03,510 --> 01:27:01,360
to solve our own problems we created the

2229
01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:03,520
problem we have to learn to fix it

2230
01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:05,040
it's some you know it's the same thing

2231
01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:07,440
with aliens like people think aliens are

2232
01:27:09,910 --> 01:27:08,880
just going to come here and fix all our

2233
01:27:11,189 --> 01:27:09,920
problems

2234
01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:11,199
i i think

2235
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:12,880
one have better things to do and for all

2236
01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:14,800
we know they have those rules like star

2237
01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:16,400
trek that they can't interfere in our

2238
01:27:21,350 --> 01:27:18,960
development

2239
01:27:22,870 --> 01:27:21,360
but i do love asking that question to

2240
01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:22,880
people like uh

2241
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:28,080
who claims that billy meyer is talking

2242
01:27:31,990 --> 01:27:30,080
to aliens constantly like well get us a

2243
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:32,000
cure for cancer then or

2244
01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:34,400
the name we shall not name he will go

2245
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:37,520
after all of us again that's not

2246
01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:43,350
haven't all of us been a target of uh

2247
01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:54,149
he's just he's he's lucky brianna that

2248
01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:56,719
i'm a young i'm an older man with

2249
01:28:01,990 --> 01:27:59,520
children now because if he had did what

2250
01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:02,000
he did to me while i was younger and

2251
01:28:05,830 --> 01:28:04,560
still like a fighter like i would have

2252
01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:05,840
found out where he lived and i would

2253
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:08,159
have pulled him out of his house and

2254
01:28:11,669 --> 01:28:09,920
beat the sh you know like i really would

2255
01:28:13,669 --> 01:28:11,679
have in my younger days

2256
01:28:16,709 --> 01:28:13,679
you did a lot of [\h__\h] to jamie and i

2257
01:28:18,709 --> 01:28:16,719
know that as your producer don't forget

2258
01:28:20,470 --> 01:28:18,719
don't do that

2259
01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:20,480
uh i wanted to mention something to you

2260
01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:21,760
guys

2261
01:28:25,430 --> 01:28:23,600
so one of the

2262
01:28:27,030 --> 01:28:25,440
children that was saying like oh that

2263
01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:27,040
it's about

2264
01:28:32,629 --> 01:28:29,280
pollution that they were warning about

2265
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:32,639
technology too much technology

2266
01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:35,040
and then she said

2267
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:37,840
in space there is no love

2268
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:40,880
but in here there is love

2269
01:28:45,830 --> 01:28:43,360
and all of that stuck out to me because

2270
01:28:47,910 --> 01:28:45,840
they looked like typical gray aliens

2271
01:28:52,629 --> 01:28:47,920
and i'm sure you guys are

2272
01:28:55,189 --> 01:28:52,639
well uh knowledgeable in gray alien lore

2273
01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:55,199
at least with zetas that they got to

2274
01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:58,000
technology you know way too advanced in

2275
01:29:01,510 --> 01:28:59,600
technology

2276
01:29:03,350 --> 01:29:01,520
became like half machine

2277
01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:03,360
didn't have emotions anymore so they

2278
01:29:07,030 --> 01:29:05,360
went underground and they're like coming

2279
01:29:08,149 --> 01:29:07,040
back here because we have love and

2280
01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:08,159
emotion

2281
01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:09,760
all of that

2282
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:12,239
it's either incredible timing or they

2283
01:29:16,629 --> 01:29:15,760
were for sure seated with that story

2284
01:29:18,149 --> 01:29:16,639
i heard

2285
01:29:21,910 --> 01:29:18,159
you just said in the christopher walken

2286
01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:23,350
and you know what it is you know when

2287
01:29:27,189 --> 01:29:25,360
they're coming here and they're gonna do

2288
01:29:29,830 --> 01:29:27,199
the thing and

2289
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:29,840
and those aliens are also glided

2290
01:29:34,149 --> 01:29:31,440
it is interesting that they got that

2291
01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:34,159
warning about about technology and yes

2292
01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:36,880
it is it is accepted ufo mythology that

2293
01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:39,120
the grays sort of bio-engineered

2294
01:29:43,510 --> 01:29:42,000
themselves out of emotions somehow

2295
01:29:46,149 --> 01:29:43,520
because they thought that would advance

2296
01:29:48,310 --> 01:29:46,159
them and then they came back here to get

2297
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:48,320
the old dna so they could get emotions

2298
01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:50,080
back and they're fascinated by humans

2299
01:29:53,750 --> 01:29:51,520
because we still have cause their

2300
01:29:55,910 --> 01:29:53,760
children were dying their hybrid

2301
01:29:58,709 --> 01:29:55,920
children are dying because they have no

2302
01:30:01,990 --> 01:29:59,830
so

2303
01:30:05,510 --> 01:30:02,000
wait wait wait wait wait isn't that the

2304
01:30:08,149 --> 01:30:05,520
whole plot of the final season of fringe

2305
01:30:10,070 --> 01:30:08,159
or am i just going crazy i don't know

2306
01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:10,080
the observers don't have emotions in the

2307
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:12,000
future so they send a child back and the

2308
01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:14,000
observer hides him in the past and then

2309
01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:15,840
they have to get the child who can

2310
01:30:19,990 --> 01:30:17,440
experience love and send him to the

2311
01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:20,000
future so the observers who look like

2312
01:30:24,070 --> 01:30:21,840
grey aliens can now

2313
01:30:25,750 --> 01:30:24,080
have emotions in the future okay but

2314
01:30:27,750 --> 01:30:25,760
[\h__\h] is always

2315
01:30:29,830 --> 01:30:27,760
stuff is always

2316
01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:29,840
weaved in with film and literature

2317
01:30:35,189 --> 01:30:32,480
that's how i know i just it just struck

2318
01:30:38,229 --> 01:30:35,199
me that that's a thing

2319
01:30:40,629 --> 01:30:38,239
so yeah that that's a little too on the

2320
01:30:42,870 --> 01:30:40,639
point for me so i'm gonna have to

2321
01:30:44,470 --> 01:30:42,880
overall say

2322
01:30:46,310 --> 01:30:44,480
that uh

2323
01:30:49,270 --> 01:30:46,320
it's a little fishy again it's it's

2324
01:30:51,270 --> 01:30:49,280
either two point on or

2325
01:30:52,870 --> 01:30:51,280
someone seated something i don't know

2326
01:30:55,270 --> 01:30:52,880
yeah i didn't know this but the john

2327
01:30:57,110 --> 01:30:55,280
mack institute apparently has full

2328
01:30:59,510 --> 01:30:57,120
interviews and transcripts and they may

2329
01:31:03,510 --> 01:30:59,520
release them next year why is it taken

2330
01:31:05,830 --> 01:31:03,520
26 years to release these transcripts

2331
01:31:07,990 --> 01:31:05,840
because no one cared until there was a

2332
01:31:10,709 --> 01:31:08,000
documentary before it was just like a

2333
01:31:12,709 --> 01:31:10,719
story you know they cared way back then

2334
01:31:14,149 --> 01:31:12,719
and i'm sure like

2335
01:31:17,030 --> 01:31:14,159
like

2336
01:31:18,950 --> 01:31:17,040
vested interest

2337
01:31:21,110 --> 01:31:18,960
in these transcripts so why were they

2338
01:31:22,950 --> 01:31:21,120
kept secret for 26 years

2339
01:31:25,030 --> 01:31:22,960
so you guys should have a middle [\h__\h]

2340
01:31:26,790 --> 01:31:25,040
option because they're obviously people

2341
01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:26,800
here that know about the middle [\h__\h]

2342
01:31:31,669 --> 01:31:28,480
and they don't either you didn't leave

2343
01:31:34,149 --> 01:31:31,679
that an option you only said yes or no

2344
01:31:36,310 --> 01:31:34,159
oh middle bit yeah i'm sorry i only said

2345
01:31:38,229 --> 01:31:36,320
yeah aliens or something else

2346
01:31:39,430 --> 01:31:38,239
the only mental [\h__\h] here is uh you

2347
01:31:40,550 --> 01:31:39,440
stephen

2348
01:31:45,669 --> 01:31:40,560
yes

2349
01:31:48,310 --> 01:31:45,679
definitely the middle [\h__\h] let's see uh

2350
01:31:51,189 --> 01:31:48,320
according to our poll here we have

2351
01:31:53,830 --> 01:31:51,199
55 of the audience says that they saw

2352
01:31:55,669 --> 01:31:53,840
something else and 47

2353
01:31:57,430 --> 01:31:55,679
or i'm sorry 53

2354
01:32:01,189 --> 01:31:57,440
said something else

2355
01:32:05,669 --> 01:32:01,199
and 47 said aliens

2356
01:32:09,990 --> 01:32:08,950
the cycle continues

2357
01:32:12,070 --> 01:32:10,000
yeah

2358
01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:12,080
it's uh that's probably why they had no

2359
01:32:16,310 --> 01:32:14,800
ending like what do you say

2360
01:32:17,750 --> 01:32:16,320
you don't you go back to the beginning

2361
01:32:20,310 --> 01:32:17,760
and you repeat the process just with

2362
01:32:23,270 --> 01:32:20,320
this oh so see this is where it gets fun

2363
01:32:25,430 --> 01:32:23,280
the john mack institute made a deal with

2364
01:32:27,590 --> 01:32:25,440
randall nickerson who made the ariel

2365
01:32:30,070 --> 01:32:27,600
movie for exclusivity

2366
01:32:31,990 --> 01:32:30,080
and there's a time you know like he has

2367
01:32:33,430 --> 01:32:32,000
to have them exclusively for a certain

2368
01:32:34,629 --> 01:32:33,440
period of time then they're allowed to

2369
01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:34,639
release them

2370
01:32:41,189 --> 01:32:37,920
but why were they released in 1994

2371
01:32:42,229 --> 01:32:41,199
that's my question regardless of the

2372
01:32:44,629 --> 01:32:42,239
movie

2373
01:32:46,550 --> 01:32:44,639
why did it take 26 years of these

2374
01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:46,560
transcripts being locked away when well

2375
01:32:50,149 --> 01:32:49,120
we don't know

2376
01:32:51,669 --> 01:32:50,159
having them

2377
01:32:53,030 --> 01:32:51,679
corey you know what i'm getting i'm

2378
01:32:54,950 --> 01:32:53,040
getting angry

2379
01:32:56,950 --> 01:32:54,960
the brits are angry i'm gonna make a

2380
01:32:59,750 --> 01:32:56,960
note i'm gonna call the john mack

2381
01:33:01,750 --> 01:32:59,760
institute tomorrow and i'm gonna ask

2382
01:33:04,149 --> 01:33:01,760
them if they were ever released to

2383
01:33:06,229 --> 01:33:04,159
anyone other than this filmmaker ever in

2384
01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:06,239
their history

2385
01:33:10,149 --> 01:33:08,400
because that's important you know right

2386
01:33:12,390 --> 01:33:10,159
if they only ever released it to the

2387
01:33:15,189 --> 01:33:12,400
filmmaker who apparently paid for the

2388
01:33:17,590 --> 01:33:15,199
rights to exclusivity that's kind of

2389
01:33:20,229 --> 01:33:17,600
problematic for me

2390
01:33:22,950 --> 01:33:20,239
that's definitely ufo profiteering and

2391
01:33:26,550 --> 01:33:22,960
by all accounts this filmmaker is a firm

2392
01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:26,560
believer in aliens and ufos and uh

2393
01:33:29,910 --> 01:33:28,239
you know what i like is i like those

2394
01:33:31,990 --> 01:33:29,920
weird documentaries that are made by

2395
01:33:34,790 --> 01:33:32,000
people who really don't know much about

2396
01:33:36,950 --> 01:33:34,800
ufos it's almost like

2397
01:33:39,590 --> 01:33:36,960
you know they they sort of

2398
01:33:41,350 --> 01:33:39,600
delve into the rabbit hole you know

2399
01:33:42,950 --> 01:33:41,360
those are a little more interesting

2400
01:33:44,629 --> 01:33:42,960
sometimes because

2401
01:33:46,149 --> 01:33:44,639
i don't know somebody like james fox you

2402
01:33:48,390 --> 01:33:46,159
know he believes a lot of this stuff

2403
01:33:50,070 --> 01:33:48,400
already so there's going to be a tilt to

2404
01:33:50,870 --> 01:33:50,080
the documentaries that the believers

2405
01:33:52,550 --> 01:33:50,880
make

2406
01:33:57,110 --> 01:33:52,560
you know

2407
01:33:59,910 --> 01:33:57,120
yeah like uh jj abrams when he did um

2408
01:34:02,310 --> 01:33:59,920
that series on no

2409
01:34:05,030 --> 01:34:02,320
he did that series on

2410
01:34:05,990 --> 01:34:05,040
on time

2411
01:34:07,430 --> 01:34:06,000
oh

2412
01:34:10,629 --> 01:34:07,440
yes and

2413
01:34:12,709 --> 01:34:10,639
that one i felt was very fair

2414
01:34:15,430 --> 01:34:12,719
at for every

2415
01:34:17,910 --> 01:34:15,440
uh experience you know for ev everything

2416
01:34:19,910 --> 01:34:17,920
that could possibly back it up that it

2417
01:34:22,709 --> 01:34:19,920
was the truth i felt like he did a great

2418
01:34:26,790 --> 01:34:22,719
job at counteracting that as well

2419
01:34:29,669 --> 01:34:27,910
but that's

2420
01:34:46,070 --> 01:34:29,679
how it should be because you leave i'm

2421
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:50,709
you did that to me earlier it's just

2422
01:34:54,070 --> 01:34:52,870
i'm not even high i'm never high

2423
01:34:57,030 --> 01:34:54,080
um

2424
01:34:57,910 --> 01:34:57,040
really just jamie is all the time

2425
01:34:59,270 --> 01:34:57,920
yeah

2426
01:35:03,430 --> 01:34:59,280
i don't

2427
01:35:05,590 --> 01:35:03,440
before bed

2428
01:35:07,590 --> 01:35:05,600
i'll call kari i'll be outside smoke and

2429
01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:07,600
i'll come inside and i'll be like it's

2430
01:35:12,149 --> 01:35:11,440
four o'clock in the [\h__\h] morning

2431
01:35:18,950 --> 01:35:12,159
but

2432
01:35:19,910 --> 01:35:18,960
would i would not be able to like i i

2433
01:35:21,830 --> 01:35:19,920
can't

2434
01:35:24,229 --> 01:35:21,840
function normally in smoke during the

2435
01:35:27,910 --> 01:35:25,910
well i guess that makes it i guess it

2436
01:35:31,350 --> 01:35:27,920
depends on the

2437
01:35:32,629 --> 01:35:31,360
strain though right i get paranoid and i

2438
01:35:34,390 --> 01:35:32,639
get fine

2439
01:35:36,709 --> 01:35:34,400
i just get too

2440
01:35:39,110 --> 01:35:36,719
distracted paranoid there's just too

2441
01:35:42,310 --> 01:35:39,120
many things too many things

2442
01:35:46,229 --> 01:35:42,320
the cycle continues i forgot what i was

2443
01:35:47,669 --> 01:35:46,239
saying cara you threw me off with that

2444
01:35:49,270 --> 01:35:47,679
yes

2445
01:35:52,629 --> 01:35:49,280
she's not high but she still suffers

2446
01:35:55,110 --> 01:35:53,430
so

2447
01:35:57,510 --> 01:35:55,120
i i don't know where we end this i think

2448
01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:57,520
we're at an impasse but isn't it funny

2449
01:36:01,030 --> 01:35:59,040
how the documentary didn't have an

2450
01:36:02,550 --> 01:36:01,040
ending and now the discussion doesn't

2451
01:36:05,590 --> 01:36:02,560
have an ending this has been just

2452
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:05,600
another day in ufology everybody yes

2453
01:36:09,910 --> 01:36:08,159
one more time one more time

2454
01:36:12,629 --> 01:36:09,920
just another day

2455
01:36:15,430 --> 01:36:12,639
another tantalizing maybe true case that

2456
01:36:17,189 --> 01:36:15,440
we can't definitively prove either way

2457
01:36:19,750 --> 01:36:17,199
we can't be in my life but we can't

2458
01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:19,760
prove it was aliens either so would you

2459
01:36:23,669 --> 01:36:21,600
guys recommend it though

2460
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:23,679
i would recommend the film yeah i i

2461
01:36:27,510 --> 01:36:25,360
thought for people that don't know

2462
01:36:29,669 --> 01:36:27,520
anything about it it's a really good

2463
01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:29,679
explanation of what yeah even for people

2464
01:36:34,629 --> 01:36:31,679
not into aliens i think they would find

2465
01:36:36,870 --> 01:36:34,639
it a cool mystery even if anything is

2466
01:36:39,030 --> 01:36:36,880
more palatable than other ufo

2467
01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:39,040
documentaries because it's not like this

2468
01:36:43,669 --> 01:36:41,520
isn't a bunch of like rednecks or or

2469
01:36:45,109 --> 01:36:43,679
anything your i saw a ufo and it was

2470
01:36:47,350 --> 01:36:45,119
real cool man

2471
01:36:49,990 --> 01:36:47,360
it's these are kids wow there's a

2472
01:36:51,750 --> 01:36:50,000
certain innocence to it

2473
01:36:53,430 --> 01:36:51,760
what's how the culture portrays it a lot

2474
01:36:54,870 --> 01:36:53,440
of the time it's like you get these

2475
01:36:57,030 --> 01:36:54,880
wackadoo

2476
01:36:59,270 --> 01:36:57,040
and i have to pay royalties for using

2477
01:37:00,870 --> 01:36:59,280
that word to steven wackadoo these

2478
01:37:02,709 --> 01:37:00,880
wackadoo people

2479
01:37:04,550 --> 01:37:02,719
i'm sure i stole it from somebody else i

2480
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:04,560
i just like that they always find the

2481
01:37:10,790 --> 01:37:09,669
i like i like the term quakademic i got

2482
01:37:12,870 --> 01:37:10,800
that from my generation how could you

2483
01:37:15,030 --> 01:37:12,880
like whackerdoodle it's like the same

2484
01:37:16,870 --> 01:37:15,040
did you know you know what one of the

2485
01:37:18,550 --> 01:37:16,880
things is very disappointing about this

2486
01:37:20,470 --> 01:37:18,560
case though is there's no pictures or

2487
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:20,480
videos but i'm almost happy about that

2488
01:37:24,229 --> 01:37:21,600
because then

2489
01:37:25,990 --> 01:37:24,239
those things can can

2490
01:37:28,550 --> 01:37:26,000
often when people do have pictures and

2491
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:28,560
videos it's fake like uh that jonathan

2492
01:37:34,390 --> 01:37:31,360
reed case that's my favorite fake ufo

2493
01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:34,400
hoax case it's so cringe the guy with

2494
01:37:38,390 --> 01:37:36,239
the he got a

2495
01:37:41,109 --> 01:37:38,400
dummy in a blanket and he's breathing

2496
01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:41,119
heavy and he's like oh it's so cringe

2497
01:37:45,510 --> 01:37:43,360
and he's got the alien armband that he

2498
01:37:48,470 --> 01:37:45,520
vanishes with

2499
01:37:50,390 --> 01:37:48,480
i love that i need that i love it you

2500
01:37:52,390 --> 01:37:50,400
know what i wouldn't recommend i can't

2501
01:37:54,310 --> 01:37:52,400
we can't have him on the show because we

2502
01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:54,320
vet things three times before we let

2503
01:37:58,310 --> 01:37:56,400
things on the show

2504
01:38:00,390 --> 01:37:58,320
no you know what's funny is i found him

2505
01:38:03,189 --> 01:38:00,400
on facebook and i am gonna ask him for

2506
01:38:04,629 --> 01:38:03,199
an interview but oh he's gonna do it

2507
01:38:06,870 --> 01:38:04,639
i'm gonna ask him because i love i'm

2508
01:38:09,750 --> 01:38:06,880
just gonna slowly sink out with my chair

2509
01:38:10,709 --> 01:38:09,760
that is my favorite of all fake alien

2510
01:38:12,870 --> 01:38:10,719
hoax

2511
01:38:16,310 --> 01:38:12,880
it is my favorite of all because it's so

2512
01:38:21,109 --> 01:38:16,320
cringe and i couldn't believe it i got a

2513
01:38:22,790 --> 01:38:21,119
vhs tape of that [\h__\h] in 1990 something

2514
01:38:25,510 --> 01:38:22,800
one of my friends who knew i loved

2515
01:38:26,950 --> 01:38:25,520
aliens was in the aliens he made a vhs

2516
01:38:28,629 --> 01:38:26,960
tape and i think

2517
01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:28,639
he was selling it somewhere at

2518
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:30,639
conferences but then people just copied

2519
01:38:34,149 --> 01:38:32,880
it so i got one that was all like shitty

2520
01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:34,159
and

2521
01:38:41,109 --> 01:38:38,800
this is so bad it's beautiful

2522
01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:41,119
and uh now the guy's making the rounds

2523
01:38:45,910 --> 01:38:43,280
he's been completely debunked a total

2524
01:38:47,590 --> 01:38:45,920
fraud fake doctor fake education high

2525
01:38:50,229 --> 01:38:47,600
school dropout

2526
01:38:52,149 --> 01:38:50,239
and uh fake work history fake fake fake

2527
01:38:53,270 --> 01:38:52,159
fake fake now he's making the rounds

2528
01:38:55,109 --> 01:38:53,280
again

2529
01:38:57,350 --> 01:38:55,119
and mr i

2530
01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:57,360
vet everything three times before i talk

2531
01:39:02,709 --> 01:39:00,480
about it on my show had him on his show

2532
01:39:04,790 --> 01:39:02,719
and he called him dr

2533
01:39:06,790 --> 01:39:04,800
jimmy church and he called him doctor

2534
01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:06,800
through the entire interview a hundred

2535
01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:08,800
times even though the guys in high

2536
01:39:13,830 --> 01:39:11,040
school drop out and he's not a real

2537
01:39:15,750 --> 01:39:13,840
doctor he kept calling him doctor it's

2538
01:39:18,390 --> 01:39:15,760
awesome have you noticed how whenever

2539
01:39:21,030 --> 01:39:18,400
there's a like a a grift experiencer or

2540
01:39:24,070 --> 01:39:21,040
a grift whistleblower jimmy church isn't

2541
01:39:26,310 --> 01:39:24,080
far behind he's he's yeah yeah like he

2542
01:39:28,390 --> 01:39:26,320
smells those ufo dollars man yeah he's

2543
01:39:29,669 --> 01:39:28,400
like the ambulance hey you want you want

2544
01:39:31,030 --> 01:39:29,679
to come and pay the black yeah well come

2545
01:39:32,310 --> 01:39:31,040
afraid to black yeah

2546
01:39:33,590 --> 01:39:32,320
come come do it

2547
01:39:35,510 --> 01:39:33,600
i'll give you five percent of the

2548
01:39:38,229 --> 01:39:35,520
proceeds

2549
01:39:41,910 --> 01:39:38,239
he he is the ambulance chaser of ufo

2550
01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:41,920
grifters for sure absolutely yeah he was

2551
01:39:45,590 --> 01:39:44,320
supposed to do a part two but i think

2552
01:39:48,629 --> 01:39:45,600
because of us

2553
01:39:50,629 --> 01:39:48,639
he's not gonna do the part two

2554
01:39:53,270 --> 01:39:50,639
i should have weighed it and gotten the

2555
01:39:54,950 --> 01:39:53,280
part two i really should have waited

2556
01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:54,960
you know

2557
01:40:00,310 --> 01:39:58,400
you saved people's ears three hours of

2558
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:00,320
listening to a dude that's been debunked

2559
01:40:04,390 --> 01:40:03,280
for three decades now so

2560
01:40:06,550 --> 01:40:04,400
good job

2561
01:40:09,109 --> 01:40:06,560
my other favorite decade

2562
01:40:11,510 --> 01:40:09,119
my other favorite of that guy is the uh

2563
01:40:13,109 --> 01:40:11,520
that he he like photoshopped himself

2564
01:40:15,030 --> 01:40:13,119
with the pope and he was telling

2565
01:40:17,350 --> 01:40:15,040
everybody that he met the pope to tell

2566
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:17,360
and wanted to hear about his alien

2567
01:40:21,430 --> 01:40:19,440
encounter and all this [\h__\h] and then

2568
01:40:23,669 --> 01:40:21,440
somebody found the exact picture that he

2569
01:40:24,629 --> 01:40:23,679
photoshopped him meeting the pope from

2570
01:40:26,790 --> 01:40:24,639
you know

2571
01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:26,800
like oh it's beautiful and then he

2572
01:40:30,629 --> 01:40:28,320
photoshopped himself in front of

2573
01:40:33,669 --> 01:40:30,639
pyramids and [\h__\h] and it's so bad of a

2574
01:40:36,229 --> 01:40:33,679
photoshop job that it's just

2575
01:40:38,470 --> 01:40:36,239
cringe-worthy bad

2576
01:40:40,629 --> 01:40:38,480
uh ufo john doe says guys ever come

2577
01:40:43,510 --> 01:40:40,639
across a tv show project ufo from the

2578
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:43,520
70s stumbled on youtube few episodes in

2579
01:40:46,950 --> 01:40:45,360
kind of corny but fun to watch i love

2580
01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:46,960
those old documentaries that's why i

2581
01:40:50,709 --> 01:40:47,760
like

2582
01:40:52,310 --> 01:40:50,719
uh i love youtube because uh and thank

2583
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:52,320
you for your kindness generosity and

2584
01:40:57,189 --> 01:40:55,760
support we've we really appreciate it

2585
01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:57,199
yeah

2586
01:41:00,790 --> 01:40:59,280
i'll look into that man i wouldn't

2587
01:41:03,109 --> 01:41:00,800
recommend that movie to anyone

2588
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:03,119
especially anyone in this chat

2589
01:41:06,310 --> 01:41:04,480
um

2590
01:41:07,990 --> 01:41:06,320
i feel like we told you everything there

2591
01:41:10,709 --> 01:41:08,000
is to know

2592
01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:10,719
we did we did basically just save i mean

2593
01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:14,080
do we now owe damages

2594
01:41:18,870 --> 01:41:16,320
earlier today i'm like listen we watched

2595
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:18,880
so they didn't have to yeah so that's

2596
01:41:22,550 --> 01:41:20,800
kind of how i feel i mean i got away

2597
01:41:24,870 --> 01:41:22,560
with not having to watch a second time i

2598
01:41:26,950 --> 01:41:24,880
was quite happy about that

2599
01:41:27,910 --> 01:41:26,960
only because you got distracted

2600
01:41:29,430 --> 01:41:27,920
um

2601
01:41:31,910 --> 01:41:29,440
yeah

2602
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:31,920
maybe maybe to an outsider but i don't

2603
01:41:34,790 --> 01:41:33,760
know i i

2604
01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:34,800
don't know

2605
01:41:38,070 --> 01:41:36,639
i really don't

2606
01:41:39,910 --> 01:41:38,080
hopefully i don't think there'll ever be

2607
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:39,920
a ufo documentary out there though

2608
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:43,040
that's going to make everyone happy

2609
01:41:49,109 --> 01:41:46,480
uh so i mean i don't know if the day

2610
01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:49,119
will ever come because you're either

2611
01:41:52,790 --> 01:41:51,040
going to start from basics and tell the

2612
01:41:53,590 --> 01:41:52,800
story because you're hoping that someone

2613
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:53,600
who

2614
01:41:57,430 --> 01:41:55,520
has never

2615
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:57,440
had any interest is going to learn

2616
01:42:00,709 --> 01:41:58,880
everything there but then you're going

2617
01:42:01,590 --> 01:42:00,719
to upset all the other people who are

2618
01:42:03,430 --> 01:42:01,600
already

2619
01:42:05,189 --> 01:42:03,440
in the ufo circle and they're like you

2620
01:42:09,270 --> 01:42:05,199
told us this already

2621
01:42:11,109 --> 01:42:09,280
so i it just seems like what's the point

2622
01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:11,119
i don't know yeah

2623
01:42:12,790 --> 01:42:11,920
yeah

2624
01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:12,800
and

2625
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:14,480
that's a good place to end it there i

2626
01:42:19,990 --> 01:42:17,199
mean no but uh before you guys go i

2627
01:42:22,310 --> 01:42:20,000
found a fantastic piece of evidence of

2628
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:22,320
alien interaction on earth

2629
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:24,880
and i want to get your opinion of it yes

2630
01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:26,960
uh apparently there's a doctor and he

2631
01:42:30,870 --> 01:42:28,480
writes books about

2632
01:42:33,270 --> 01:42:30,880
his interaction with aliens from saturn

2633
01:42:34,310 --> 01:42:33,280
and they gave him an alien artifact

2634
01:42:35,669 --> 01:42:34,320
named

2635
01:42:40,629 --> 01:42:35,679
nimbus

2636
01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:40,639
will kind of like dr

2637
01:42:43,990 --> 01:42:42,719
jonathan reed's alien armband but this

2638
01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:44,000
one's different

2639
01:42:46,390 --> 01:42:45,040
and so

2640
01:42:51,350 --> 01:42:46,400
uh

2641
01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:51,360
rounds on youtube talk shows and i want

2642
01:42:56,310 --> 01:42:53,840
to get your opinion of this incredible

2643
01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:56,320
footage that he has provided are you

2644
01:43:00,229 --> 01:42:57,920
ready

2645
01:43:01,830 --> 01:43:00,239
uh saturn i'm sorry he's talking to

2646
01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:01,840
aliens from saturn

2647
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:05,920
alien artifact that lets him vanish at

2648
01:43:09,830 --> 01:43:07,920
will and he's provided incredible

2649
01:43:12,629 --> 01:43:09,840
evidence of it are you ready you got you

2650
01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:12,639
gotta get your gashes balls correct

2651
01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:14,560
we're gonna watch we're gonna watch it

2652
01:43:18,390 --> 01:43:16,719
and i want to know everybody and an

2653
01:43:20,470 --> 01:43:18,400
opinion of everybody in the live chat

2654
01:43:22,149 --> 01:43:20,480
this is some serious evidence where do

2655
01:43:24,229 --> 01:43:22,159
you see this you ready

2656
01:43:26,390 --> 01:43:24,239
all right here we go so uh and i'm i'm

2657
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:26,400
trying to find this video this youtube

2658
01:43:32,390 --> 01:43:28,880
and share it and i mean it was just in

2659
01:43:33,669 --> 01:43:32,400
an office in west virginia and and

2660
01:43:36,629 --> 01:43:33,679
um

2661
01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:36,639
a student was visiting and had a

2662
01:43:43,830 --> 01:43:39,840
had a video camera and took a picture

2663
01:43:47,109 --> 01:43:43,840
pictures of me uh a motion picture

2664
01:43:50,550 --> 01:43:47,119
of me and that that that's it so there's

2665
01:43:53,109 --> 01:43:50,560
no no props or anything like that

2666
01:43:55,669 --> 01:43:53,119
but it was just for a little it was just

2667
01:43:57,750 --> 01:43:55,679
a little um experiment or a little show

2668
01:43:59,430 --> 01:43:57,760
right i mean it wasn't for a specific

2669
01:44:01,750 --> 01:43:59,440
person it was just for uh

2670
01:44:02,870 --> 01:44:01,760
for a specific purpose it was just for

2671
01:44:05,350 --> 01:44:02,880
fun right

2672
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:05,360
yes it was just just for fun and just to

2673
01:44:17,830 --> 01:44:06,400
uh

2674
01:44:23,350 --> 01:44:20,390
some of the concepts in the book and

2675
01:44:25,189 --> 01:44:23,360
that's it that's it okay i'm fine i'm

2676
01:45:24,870 --> 01:44:25,199
going to find it and i'm going to share

2677
01:45:30,149 --> 01:45:27,350
the second i saw the lasers i was like

2678
01:45:32,310 --> 01:45:30,159
uh i have a few laser pointers and uh

2679
01:45:34,149 --> 01:45:32,320
that's what it is uh what

2680
01:45:37,669 --> 01:45:34,159
you know what that is that's that's a

2681
01:45:38,950 --> 01:45:37,679
that's a laser led dj you can see his

2682
01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:38,960
outline

2683
01:45:42,790 --> 01:45:41,040
on the wall

2684
01:45:45,350 --> 01:45:42,800
you can get that party light on amazon

2685
01:45:47,030 --> 01:45:45,360
for twenty dollars

2686
01:45:48,709 --> 01:45:47,040
from it i was like

2687
01:45:49,910 --> 01:45:48,719
and he had to put a little red hat on

2688
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:49,920
his little like

2689
01:45:54,629 --> 01:45:52,960
great again hat show up on there

2690
01:45:56,470 --> 01:45:54,639
where i've taken my glasses that guy's

2691
01:46:01,510 --> 01:45:56,480
selling books about contact with the

2692
01:46:05,510 --> 01:46:03,430
and the woman really believed that that

2693
01:46:07,189 --> 01:46:05,520
was interviewing him that's what i found

2694
01:46:10,830 --> 01:46:07,199
interesting so

2695
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:10,840
hey really quickly there was a comment

2696
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:12,960
um and

2697
01:46:23,669 --> 01:46:22,070
oh from robert who was saying no one

2698
01:46:25,750 --> 01:46:23,679
mentions that there were pretty harsh

2699
01:46:27,189 --> 01:46:25,760
punishments from kids telling lies in

2700
01:46:29,270 --> 01:46:27,199
that part of the world

2701
01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:29,280
right it would not have been in their

2702
01:46:33,430 --> 01:46:31,360
best interest to lie

2703
01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:33,440
or exaggerate and that's an interesting

2704
01:46:38,950 --> 01:46:36,320
point that is a good point like

2705
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:38,960
if they had been making it up they would

2706
01:46:43,590 --> 01:46:41,600
have faced repercussions right so these

2707
01:46:45,030 --> 01:46:43,600
here comes the believers to attack me

2708
01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:45,040
watch the show

2709
01:46:49,669 --> 01:46:46,960
well no i never said that the school

2710
01:46:50,709 --> 01:46:49,679
kids are fake we explored the whole

2711
01:46:51,669 --> 01:46:50,719
thing

2712
01:46:57,830 --> 01:46:51,679
yeah

2713
01:47:01,189 --> 01:47:00,390
they had seen something like by the end

2714
01:47:03,189 --> 01:47:01,199
of it

2715
01:47:04,709 --> 01:47:03,199
it's it's questionable how much they

2716
01:47:05,990 --> 01:47:04,719
were led into what they were saying but

2717
01:47:08,149 --> 01:47:06,000
that

2718
01:47:10,310 --> 01:47:08,159
the fear behind their eyes is real

2719
01:47:11,270 --> 01:47:10,320
whether that's situational to what's

2720
01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:11,280
going on

2721
01:47:14,550 --> 01:47:12,719
with them there or what they're

2722
01:47:16,149 --> 01:47:14,560
remembering from two months before i

2723
01:47:18,629 --> 01:47:16,159
don't know i wasn't there i'm not the

2724
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:18,639
kid cynthia is staring at them behind

2725
01:47:22,709 --> 01:47:21,040
nobody i i never said that the case is

2726
01:47:25,270 --> 01:47:22,719
fake you know i know we have a

2727
01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:25,280
reputation for being very skeptical here

2728
01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:28,960
but the problem really it lies in that

2729
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:30,880
every case that i look into we find

2730
01:47:34,709 --> 01:47:33,600
fakery fraudery in some form of bull

2731
01:47:37,109 --> 01:47:34,719
usually

2732
01:47:38,709 --> 01:47:37,119
and this one i you know if if you

2733
01:47:40,950 --> 01:47:38,719
believe the children they saw something

2734
01:47:42,070 --> 01:47:40,960
extraordinary and i can't

2735
01:47:43,990 --> 01:47:42,080
i can't

2736
01:47:46,950 --> 01:47:44,000
say they didn't you know and i don't

2737
01:47:48,310 --> 01:47:46,960
have i don't have any good

2738
01:47:51,109 --> 01:47:48,320
or valid

2739
01:47:51,830 --> 01:47:51,119
alternate explanation for what they saw

2740
01:47:53,109 --> 01:47:51,840
so

2741
01:47:56,149 --> 01:47:53,119
i'll be honest with you i am a great

2742
01:47:57,750 --> 01:47:56,159
basket i discount everything past that

2743
01:47:59,750 --> 01:47:57,760
first interview

2744
01:48:01,270 --> 01:47:59,760
for me yeah it's it's all about that

2745
01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:01,280
initial

2746
01:48:05,590 --> 01:48:03,360
reaction as a group

2747
01:48:07,350 --> 01:48:05,600
to the person with the camera truthfully

2748
01:48:09,270 --> 01:48:07,360
telling the story in the same place

2749
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:09,280
basically where they saw it

2750
01:48:13,430 --> 01:48:11,440
as opposed to afterwards when it's all

2751
01:48:15,750 --> 01:48:13,440
in the classroom it's very clinical and

2752
01:48:21,510 --> 01:48:15,760
this cynthia ladies there

2753
01:48:25,990 --> 01:48:23,510
against cynthia i don't like her she

2754
01:48:28,550 --> 01:48:26,000
gave me the bad vibes man

2755
01:48:30,790 --> 01:48:28,560
she gave him his chance

2756
01:48:33,030 --> 01:48:30,800
like i had i had to go meditate and like

2757
01:48:35,830 --> 01:48:33,040
cleanse myself of that

2758
01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:35,840
that vibe it was awful

2759
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:38,320
i'm kidding i i don't know what

2760
01:48:45,830 --> 01:48:42,790
i don't know what i missed you you

2761
01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:45,840
remember like so whatever you'd like to

2762
01:48:51,189 --> 01:48:48,880
share em yeckersly how far back do we

2763
01:48:53,189 --> 01:48:51,199
have to go yeah what the chat is what's

2764
01:48:54,629 --> 01:48:53,199
it like i read one comment earlier and i

2765
01:48:57,189 --> 01:48:54,639
thought it was there's like seven

2766
01:48:59,669 --> 01:48:57,199
thousand comments my life we've shot

2767
01:49:02,070 --> 01:48:59,679
we've shared 200 comments tonight i

2768
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:02,080
can't i i sometimes miss people's

2769
01:49:06,550 --> 01:49:04,480
comments and i apologize for that god

2770
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:06,560
please don't get upset it wasn't like i

2771
01:49:11,350 --> 01:49:08,480
intentionally said we're not going to

2772
01:49:13,990 --> 01:49:11,360
share anything this one chat user shared

2773
01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:14,000
i just missed whatever you said relax

2774
01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:16,080
when that video first started

2775
01:49:21,510 --> 01:49:18,880
like my birthday stephen

2776
01:49:23,189 --> 01:49:21,520
next time you start you start getting

2777
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:23,199
you get you know you're getting mad and

2778
01:49:26,709 --> 01:49:24,960
you're building up and you're going on a

2779
01:49:29,189 --> 01:49:26,719
run just remember

2780
01:49:30,310 --> 01:49:29,199
calm down

2781
01:49:31,990 --> 01:49:30,320
that's like the worst thing you could

2782
01:49:34,709 --> 01:49:32,000
ever say

2783
01:49:37,189 --> 01:49:34,719
yeah calm down

2784
01:49:38,870 --> 01:49:37,199
listen to yourself my friend yeah and

2785
01:49:40,950 --> 01:49:38,880
when i only then

2786
01:49:42,950 --> 01:49:40,960
i i learned early in my relationship

2787
01:49:46,310 --> 01:49:42,960
rihanna not to ever tell my wife to

2788
01:49:48,070 --> 01:49:46,320
relax that that was a bad i'd never tell

2789
01:49:50,709 --> 01:49:48,080
a woman

2790
01:49:53,189 --> 01:49:50,719
calm down it doesn't work she's not

2791
01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:53,199
gonna just relax because you said relax

2792
01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:55,360
i'll be honest no your wife scares me

2793
01:49:59,430 --> 01:49:56,960
but she scares me

2794
01:50:03,830 --> 01:49:59,440
yeah no it's like giving mario a

2795
01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:05,910
i'm sorry i don't know how far back the

2796
01:50:12,790 --> 01:50:07,679
person was talking about because i went

2797
01:50:17,030 --> 01:50:14,470
i just want to say there's no need to be

2798
01:50:18,870 --> 01:50:17,040
getting ad hominem against your fellow

2799
01:50:20,629 --> 01:50:18,880
humans in the chat we're all here yeah

2800
01:50:22,830 --> 01:50:20,639
so let's please all just be respectful

2801
01:50:25,590 --> 01:50:22,840
of each

2802
01:50:27,189 --> 01:50:25,600
other parent car is coming out don't

2803
01:50:28,629 --> 01:50:27,199
make me come down there

2804
01:50:30,070 --> 01:50:28,639
don't forget we're all here for fun and

2805
01:50:31,590 --> 01:50:30,080
games you know

2806
01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:31,600
right

2807
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:33,840
fun games exploring nilf camby and

2808
01:50:37,590 --> 01:50:35,840
that's funny

2809
01:50:39,430 --> 01:50:37,600
this is that's definitely my wife she'll

2810
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:39,440
relax after she smacks the [\h__\h] out of

2811
01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:40,480
you first

2812
01:50:46,070 --> 01:50:42,880
she doesn't smack she punches like a man

2813
01:50:48,470 --> 01:50:46,080
dude she punches like a man brianna my

2814
01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:48,480
wife will punch me in the face if you

2815
01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:49,440
know

2816
01:50:53,750 --> 01:50:51,520
oh my god yeah

2817
01:50:58,870 --> 01:50:53,760
usually the arm though usually the arm

2818
01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:00,550
i think if i ever punched my husband in

2819
01:51:04,550 --> 01:51:02,800
the face he'd divorce me no she never

2820
01:51:06,709 --> 01:51:04,560
punched me in the face

2821
01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:06,719
your husband is fake breathe don't lie

2822
01:51:11,109 --> 01:51:08,400
that's right yeah we've never seen this

2823
01:51:12,870 --> 01:51:11,119
man i think she's she's like no it's not

2824
01:51:14,470 --> 01:51:12,880
actually i've seen i've seen him but

2825
01:51:15,990 --> 01:51:14,480
he's an actor

2826
01:51:18,629 --> 01:51:16,000
he's so his page

2827
01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:18,639
smith from the chad smith podcast and

2828
01:51:23,270 --> 01:51:21,760
spooky morales

2829
01:51:25,430 --> 01:51:23,280
and yeah

2830
01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:25,440
we'll just go with it all good people

2831
01:51:28,790 --> 01:51:27,440
all the people i'm confused now what i

2832
01:51:30,709 --> 01:51:28,800
thought we're talking about brianna's

2833
01:51:32,709 --> 01:51:30,719
husband that doesn't think she's not i'm

2834
01:51:34,870 --> 01:51:32,719
just naming people

2835
01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:34,880
yes

2836
01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:35,920
okay

2837
01:51:38,629 --> 01:51:37,280
yeah people have seen him in the real

2838
01:51:40,149 --> 01:51:38,639
world but he could have been an actor

2839
01:51:41,830 --> 01:51:40,159
you hired me right he's in the ufo

2840
01:51:43,350 --> 01:51:41,840
conference with you

2841
01:51:45,510 --> 01:51:43,360
i'm too poor

2842
01:51:47,990 --> 01:51:45,520
oh okay you are now you had an actor i

2843
01:51:51,589 --> 01:51:48,000
just i just

2844
01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:51,599
walk around with conferences with me

2845
01:51:57,189 --> 01:51:54,719
mass hysteria and african blind husbands

2846
01:51:59,189 --> 01:51:57,199
josh hello

2847
01:52:01,270 --> 01:51:59,199
hello hi

2848
01:52:03,910 --> 01:52:01,280
patrick yeah

2849
01:52:05,750 --> 01:52:03,920
yeah and uh john griffin says steve i

2850
01:52:08,149 --> 01:52:05,760
hope your wife ain't watching this you

2851
01:52:12,709 --> 01:52:08,159
got her down as a monster no man come on

2852
01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:14,550
see now the chat's comparing it to mike

2853
01:52:19,430 --> 01:52:16,480
tyson man you've opened that's hilarious

2854
01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:19,440
and our pandora's box here and

2855
01:52:22,950 --> 01:52:21,280
i think it's you know i think me and

2856
01:52:25,750 --> 01:52:22,960
bree should just leave and let you deal

2857
01:52:28,629 --> 01:52:25,760
with that she's more like a scary mma

2858
01:52:30,149 --> 01:52:28,639
fighter female you know like she'll

2859
01:52:31,589 --> 01:52:30,159
kick you your puncher

2860
01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:31,599
choke you out

2861
01:52:34,629 --> 01:52:33,599
yeah is that what you're into

2862
01:52:38,390 --> 01:52:34,639
sometimes

2863
01:52:41,350 --> 01:52:40,550
i like where this is going

2864
01:52:43,189 --> 01:52:41,360
sorry

2865
01:52:45,669 --> 01:52:43,199
we're wildly off topic though

2866
01:52:48,310 --> 01:52:45,679
yes well i i think that we have done our

2867
01:52:50,550 --> 01:52:48,320
due diligence we we have explored the

2868
01:52:53,030 --> 01:52:50,560
film we talked about the case we

2869
01:52:55,270 --> 01:52:53,040
we've experienced brianna's slides we

2870
01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:55,280
included uh charlie weiser who's very

2871
01:53:00,149 --> 01:52:57,199
skeptical of the case and charlie's

2872
01:53:01,430 --> 01:53:00,159
thoughts on charlie the whole show and

2873
01:53:04,550 --> 01:53:01,440
uh

2874
01:53:06,950 --> 01:53:04,560
i'm still keeping it in my gray basket

2875
01:53:08,870 --> 01:53:06,960
and and that's one of those cases where

2876
01:53:11,430 --> 01:53:08,880
i just think to myself

2877
01:53:15,350 --> 01:53:11,440
i want to believe and i have the poster

2878
01:53:18,950 --> 01:53:15,360
to prove it hey do you know what's funny

2879
01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:21,550
well you can put this case

2880
01:53:29,350 --> 01:53:25,440
[Laughter]

2881
01:53:31,910 --> 01:53:29,360
sure i'll do that i'll make one

2882
01:53:36,310 --> 01:53:31,920
okay uh yeah i'm sorry we missed your

2883
01:53:39,350 --> 01:53:36,320
comments there m yuckerslee thank you

2884
01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:39,360
and brianna should be a guest more often

2885
01:53:43,189 --> 01:53:41,440
but uh you should

2886
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:43,199
yeah it means

2887
01:53:46,070 --> 01:53:44,320
research

2888
01:53:48,950 --> 01:53:46,080
that you don't feel like doing

2889
01:53:51,109 --> 01:53:48,960
[Laughter]

2890
01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:51,119
you know i honestly i'm glad that we did

2891
01:53:53,910 --> 01:53:52,400
tonight and i want to thank you both

2892
01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:53,920
because time was sort of lighthearted

2893
01:53:57,910 --> 01:53:55,920
and fun and i've been up to my eyeballs

2894
01:54:00,310 --> 01:53:57,920
and some very ugly things that i'm

2895
01:54:02,550 --> 01:54:00,320
researching and carly knows some of the

2896
01:54:04,629 --> 01:54:02,560
stuff that i'm dealing with and and uh

2897
01:54:07,030 --> 01:54:04,639
you need that sometimes and a step away

2898
01:54:09,669 --> 01:54:07,040
from the crazy because

2899
01:54:11,510 --> 01:54:09,679
there's some dark stuff that i'm working

2900
01:54:13,510 --> 01:54:11,520
on for future shows

2901
01:54:15,910 --> 01:54:13,520
and uh it was good to be lighthearted

2902
01:54:17,910 --> 01:54:15,920
and uh you know

2903
01:54:20,229 --> 01:54:17,920
have fun with the case and this is one

2904
01:54:23,109 --> 01:54:20,239
we can i can still keep this in my gray

2905
01:54:25,270 --> 01:54:23,119
basket and not you know

2906
01:54:27,189 --> 01:54:25,280
one of those cases that's it doesn't

2907
01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:27,199
have the big let down because we don't

2908
01:54:30,709 --> 01:54:28,960
get a definitive answer of what they

2909
01:54:32,950 --> 01:54:30,719
really saw

2910
01:54:34,310 --> 01:54:32,960
so

2911
01:54:36,070 --> 01:54:34,320
yeah

2912
01:54:37,350 --> 01:54:36,080
all right i guess i'm going to throw you

2913
01:54:39,910 --> 01:54:37,360
folks out of here and then we're going

2914
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:39,920
to no i'm going to throw you out stephen

2915
01:54:43,189 --> 01:54:41,280
oh uh

2916
01:54:44,229 --> 01:54:43,199
what are you going to do

2917
01:54:45,030 --> 01:54:44,239
thank you

2918
01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:45,040
see

2919
01:54:48,870 --> 01:54:47,119
i'm making everyone say hi hi everyone

2920
01:54:50,790 --> 01:54:48,880
welcome to the super serious science

2921
01:54:52,149 --> 01:54:50,800
show um

2922
01:54:53,750 --> 01:54:52,159
if you go down

2923
01:54:56,470 --> 01:54:53,760
if you go in the description there is a

2924
01:54:57,990 --> 01:54:56,480
link to mine and breeze channel um it's

2925
01:54:59,990 --> 01:54:58,000
called that one time i was abducted by

2926
01:55:02,070 --> 01:55:00,000
aliens we have a multitude of different

2927
01:55:04,149 --> 01:55:02,080
kind of shows on there you may like them

2928
01:55:05,669 --> 01:55:04,159
you may not you may like us you may hate

2929
01:55:07,430 --> 01:55:05,679
us but we're going to entertain you

2930
01:55:09,270 --> 01:55:07,440
either way so please go down there and

2931
01:55:10,950 --> 01:55:09,280
click it i love you all

2932
01:55:12,950 --> 01:55:10,960
thanks for watching

2933
01:55:17,910 --> 01:55:12,960
thank you

2934
01:55:20,950 --> 01:55:17,920
and i'll talk to you soon

2935
01:55:25,030 --> 01:55:23,109
who is this guy

2936
01:55:27,510 --> 01:55:25,040
i'm out of here

2937
01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:27,520
i just got an imaginary husband to go

2938
01:55:34,149 --> 01:55:30,239
bang right now

2939
01:55:37,910 --> 01:55:36,229
all right friends well i want to thank

2940
01:55:39,589 --> 01:55:37,920
uh each and every one of you for joining

2941
01:55:41,589 --> 01:55:39,599
us i would thank all of our kind and

2942
01:55:43,270 --> 01:55:41,599
generous benefactors who helped make

2943
01:55:46,149 --> 01:55:43,280
this show possible

2944
01:55:47,830 --> 01:55:46,159
uh and by the way uh we did read all of

2945
01:55:50,229 --> 01:55:47,840
the super chats but i'm going to check

2946
01:55:51,830 --> 01:55:50,239
in there's also

2947
01:55:53,589 --> 01:55:51,840
other ways to throw money at us

2948
01:55:54,950 --> 01:55:53,599
including paypal and cash app and you

2949
01:55:56,870 --> 01:55:54,960
can

2950
01:55:58,870 --> 01:55:56,880
check in the description of this video

2951
01:56:00,390 --> 01:55:58,880
for instructions on how to do that if

2952
01:56:03,109 --> 01:56:00,400
you're feeling generous we're just going

2953
01:56:05,109 --> 01:56:03,119
to check in with the paypal we do read

2954
01:56:07,189 --> 01:56:05,119
every single paypal

2955
01:56:10,070 --> 01:56:07,199
if you uh

2956
01:56:12,709 --> 01:56:10,080
it's asking me for crosswalks now

2957
01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:12,719
the security challenge

2958
01:56:15,830 --> 01:56:14,880
uh

2959
01:56:18,709 --> 01:56:15,840
yeah

2960
01:56:26,830 --> 01:56:18,719
uh

2961
01:56:33,589 --> 01:56:29,750
um we may have to do that another time

2962
01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:35,589
forgive me paypal is coming up with a

2963
01:56:40,790 --> 01:56:38,400
security oh no it let me okay there we

2964
01:56:45,910 --> 01:56:43,990
let's check in our activity here we read

2965
01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:45,920
and thank every single person who sends

2966
01:56:50,790 --> 01:56:48,560
us a pledge by paypal or cash app and we

2967
01:56:52,390 --> 01:56:50,800
read all of the super chat so no we're

2968
01:56:54,629 --> 01:56:52,400
all caught up on that

2969
01:56:56,470 --> 01:56:54,639
uh i can remind you you can also join

2970
01:56:58,790 --> 01:56:56,480
our patreon for as little as a dollar a

2971
01:57:01,030 --> 01:56:58,800
month you get a bunch of extra content

2972
01:57:03,030 --> 01:57:01,040
goodies as well as a monthly show

2973
01:57:04,550 --> 01:57:03,040
journal that's sort of a backstage pass

2974
01:57:06,629 --> 01:57:04,560
is what we're working on coming up

2975
01:57:07,990 --> 01:57:06,639
what's going on you get early access in

2976
01:57:10,390 --> 01:57:08,000
the patreon you can also become a

2977
01:57:12,550 --> 01:57:10,400
channel member for as little as five

2978
01:57:14,790 --> 01:57:12,560
dollars a month uh and with the channel

2979
01:57:17,189 --> 01:57:14,800
membership on youtube you get all the

2980
01:57:19,990 --> 01:57:17,199
patreon links also get included in our

2981
01:57:21,510 --> 01:57:20,000
members only section for members here on

2982
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:21,520
youtube those are a few ways you can

2983
01:57:25,510 --> 01:57:23,360
support us the other way

2984
01:57:27,430 --> 01:57:25,520
that you can support us which is just as

2985
01:57:29,189 --> 01:57:27,440
important as to like comment subscribe

2986
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:29,199
and share these videos on your social

2987
01:57:34,229 --> 01:57:31,840
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2988
01:57:35,830 --> 01:57:34,239
and i also want to remind everybody that

2989
01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:35,840
i hate putting things behind a paywall

2990
01:57:39,990 --> 01:57:37,360
so if you're a big fan of the show and

2991
01:57:41,990 --> 01:57:40,000
you're having a difficult time don't

2992
01:57:44,629 --> 01:57:42,000
worry about the dollar and five dollars

2993
01:57:47,950 --> 01:57:44,639
i would much rather include you so just

2994
01:57:49,510 --> 01:57:47,960
email me at truthseekershow

2995
01:57:51,030 --> 01:57:49,520
gmail.com

2996
01:57:54,070 --> 01:57:51,040
and i i don't need

2997
01:57:55,830 --> 01:57:54,080
details uh just say i'd like to get the

2998
01:57:58,070 --> 01:57:55,840
patreon and member benefits having a

2999
01:58:00,790 --> 01:57:58,080
tough time or something like that and we

3000
01:58:02,470 --> 01:58:00,800
put you on a special email list uh and

3001
01:58:03,910 --> 01:58:02,480
include you as well

3002
01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:03,920
uh and

3003
01:58:07,669 --> 01:58:06,000
that would be my pleasure for big fans

3004
01:58:09,589 --> 01:58:07,679
of the show i know it's rough out there

3005
01:58:11,830 --> 01:58:09,599
right now we don't want to exclude

3006
01:58:14,790 --> 01:58:11,840
people for lack of something as small as

3007
01:58:17,750 --> 01:58:14,800
a dollar or five dollars and i also want

3008
01:58:20,310 --> 01:58:17,760
to thank the patreon supporters and the

3009
01:58:22,310 --> 01:58:20,320
channel members who are okay with me

3010
01:58:24,709 --> 01:58:22,320
doing that you know

3011
01:58:27,030 --> 01:58:24,719
i was a little worried that doing that

3012
01:58:29,109 --> 01:58:27,040
um some people might get upset like i'm

3013
01:58:30,629 --> 01:58:29,119
paying you five dollars why should i you

3014
01:58:32,470 --> 01:58:30,639
know why should people get it for free

3015
01:58:35,189 --> 01:58:32,480
but people have been very supportive of

3016
01:58:37,189 --> 01:58:35,199
our philosophy here which is

3017
01:58:40,229 --> 01:58:37,199
it's tough out there just send me an

3018
01:58:42,229 --> 01:58:40,239
email will include you in the fun uh

3019
01:58:44,229 --> 01:58:42,239
extras as well

3020
01:58:46,790 --> 01:58:44,239
uh so any more comments or questions for

3021
01:58:49,189 --> 01:58:46,800
me please put them in um

3022
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:49,199
a lot in the live chat

3023
01:58:53,030 --> 01:58:50,320
jello

3024
01:58:55,350 --> 01:58:53,040
putin says uh

3025
01:58:57,830 --> 01:58:55,360
spot me another membership stephen i'm

3026
01:58:59,750 --> 01:58:57,840
broke well i can't uh

3027
01:59:01,350 --> 01:58:59,760
that's kind of problematic for me to do

3028
01:59:03,430 --> 01:59:01,360
that like i don't even know how i would

3029
01:59:06,149 --> 01:59:03,440
do that or i would do it for you but you

3030
01:59:07,109 --> 01:59:06,159
can just email me like i said jello

3031
01:59:10,470 --> 01:59:07,119
putin

3032
01:59:12,629 --> 01:59:10,480
trueseeker show at gmail.com

3033
01:59:14,709 --> 01:59:12,639
um there's also uh

3034
01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:14,719
several people here have bought people

3035
01:59:19,910 --> 01:59:17,280
memberships and just given them out uh

3036
01:59:21,990 --> 01:59:19,920
so i i appreciate people doing that as

3037
01:59:23,910 --> 01:59:22,000
well i just gave them out randomly in

3038
01:59:26,870 --> 01:59:23,920
the live chat some nights very generous

3039
01:59:29,510 --> 01:59:26,880
people here helping keep the show going

3040
01:59:31,270 --> 01:59:29,520
mario's taco says you are awesome steve

3041
01:59:35,669 --> 01:59:31,280
relax

3042
01:59:37,350 --> 01:59:35,679
oh no

3043
01:59:38,470 --> 01:59:37,360
yeah uh

3044
01:59:42,790 --> 01:59:38,480
so

3045
01:59:44,950 --> 01:59:42,800
i i will be back tomorrow

3046
01:59:46,950 --> 01:59:44,960
for another show but i have some

3047
01:59:49,589 --> 01:59:46,960
complications because we

3048
01:59:51,750 --> 01:59:49,599
plan to have a guest and do a live show

3049
01:59:53,669 --> 01:59:51,760
tomorrow at 9 00 p.m but the guest is

3050
01:59:55,430 --> 01:59:53,679
very adamant that the software reuse

3051
01:59:57,270 --> 01:59:55,440
here won't work with their webcam and

3052
01:59:59,510 --> 01:59:57,280
wants me to use zoom

3053
02:00:02,870 --> 01:59:59,520
and so either i have to figure out how

3054
02:00:05,109 --> 02:00:02,880
to pipe the zoom into stream yard or i

3055
02:00:06,149 --> 02:00:05,119
have to do that interview off air at 9

3056
02:00:08,229 --> 02:00:06,159
00 pm

3057
02:00:10,870 --> 02:00:08,239
whatever happens there will be another

3058
02:00:13,109 --> 02:00:10,880
show tomorrow i want to thank all of you

3059
02:00:16,149 --> 02:00:13,119
for the support we have been increasing

3060
02:00:18,229 --> 02:00:16,159
our output of uh content you may notice

3061
02:00:21,109 --> 02:00:18,239
that there is some additional

3062
02:00:23,589 --> 02:00:21,119
extra production videos this week and we

3063
02:00:27,030 --> 02:00:23,599
don't usually do that many in a week

3064
02:00:29,270 --> 02:00:27,040
and we're also increasing our

3065
02:00:31,669 --> 02:00:29,280
amount of live shows per week remember

3066
02:00:34,390 --> 02:00:31,679
for the summer it was two or three

3067
02:00:36,149 --> 02:00:34,400
usually three sometimes two i wanted to

3068
02:00:38,470 --> 02:00:36,159
enjoy my summer with my children i'm

3069
02:00:42,070 --> 02:00:38,480
sure you all understand and

3070
02:00:43,109 --> 02:00:42,080
cabin time is very very important to me

3071
02:00:46,629 --> 02:00:43,119
so

3072
02:00:49,109 --> 02:00:46,639
but

3073
02:00:50,629 --> 02:00:49,119
it's coming into fall

3074
02:00:55,430 --> 02:00:50,639
and

3075
02:00:57,510 --> 02:00:55,440
consuming more content so it's a good

3076
02:00:59,510 --> 02:00:57,520
time for us to amp up the amount of

3077
02:01:01,910 --> 02:00:59,520
content we are putting out

3078
02:01:04,229 --> 02:01:01,920
you uh

3079
02:01:07,669 --> 02:01:04,239
have my thanks for uh

3080
02:01:09,910 --> 02:01:07,679
watching uh i really do appreciate it i

3081
02:01:11,910 --> 02:01:09,920
want to thank our special guests tonight

3082
02:01:13,589 --> 02:01:11,920
brianna and kari from that one time i

3083
02:01:15,189 --> 02:01:13,599
was abducted by aliens and once again i

3084
02:01:16,950 --> 02:01:15,199
will remind you that the link to their

3085
02:01:18,310 --> 02:01:16,960
channel is in the description of every

3086
02:01:19,830 --> 02:01:18,320
video here

3087
02:01:22,070 --> 02:01:19,840
uh because

3088
02:01:23,189 --> 02:01:22,080
kari twisted my arm and made us do that

3089
02:01:24,470 --> 02:01:23,199
no

3090
02:01:27,990 --> 02:01:24,480
that's fine

3091
02:01:32,070 --> 02:01:28,000
uh i wanted to support them after all uh

3092
02:01:33,990 --> 02:01:32,080
kari it does a lot for our show here and

3093
02:01:36,790 --> 02:01:34,000
this show wouldn't exist without kari so

3094
02:01:39,030 --> 02:01:36,800
that least we can do uh

3095
02:01:42,950 --> 02:01:39,040
is is support

3096
02:01:46,709 --> 02:01:42,960
the other efforts underway by uh

3097
02:01:48,790 --> 02:01:46,719
spooky and friends brianna and jamie um

3098
02:01:50,709 --> 02:01:48,800
the crystal hippie [\h__\h]

3099
02:01:52,390 --> 02:01:50,719
and uh if you like our content here you

3100
02:01:54,390 --> 02:01:52,400
will like the content there they do a

3101
02:01:55,910 --> 02:01:54,400
lot of uh

3102
02:01:58,229 --> 02:01:55,920
they do a lot of

3103
02:01:59,270 --> 02:01:58,239
looking at videos and trying to figure

3104
02:02:01,589 --> 02:01:59,280
out

3105
02:02:03,669 --> 02:02:01,599
what the videos are if they're true ufo

3106
02:02:07,510 --> 02:02:03,679
or other things they've got a cryptic

3107
02:02:09,510 --> 02:02:07,520
corner channel and other

3108
02:02:11,189 --> 02:02:09,520
it's just a fun show check it out

3109
02:02:12,870 --> 02:02:11,199
subscribe to them you'll be glad that

3110
02:02:13,190 --> 02:02:12,880
you did

3111
02:02:14,310 --> 02:02:13,200
uh

3112
02:02:15,189 --> 02:02:14,320
[Music]

3113
02:02:17,270 --> 02:02:15,199
yeah

3114
02:02:20,790 --> 02:02:17,280
so we're gonna bounce on out of here we

3115
02:02:22,470 --> 02:02:20,800
will be back we will return tomorrow um

3116
02:02:24,550 --> 02:02:22,480
depending on the situation with the

3117
02:02:26,229 --> 02:02:24,560
guest and the zoom you know i i may just

3118
02:02:27,510 --> 02:02:26,239
do an afternoon show

3119
02:02:29,830 --> 02:02:27,520
and i will

3120
02:02:31,030 --> 02:02:29,840
record the interview and do the

3121
02:02:36,629 --> 02:02:31,040
interview

3122
02:02:39,189 --> 02:02:36,639
friday or at another time i i don't know

3123
02:02:41,350 --> 02:02:39,199
we have to figure that out i suppose

3124
02:02:44,229 --> 02:02:41,360
but i i mean

3125
02:02:46,229 --> 02:02:44,239
really important for me to get this

3126
02:02:48,709 --> 02:02:46,239
interview i'm not going to announce who

3127
02:02:51,430 --> 02:02:48,719
it is but you'll be surprised who it is

3128
02:02:53,189 --> 02:02:51,440
but i wanted to do this because i think

3129
02:02:55,430 --> 02:02:53,199
sometimes in life there are teachable

3130
02:02:58,149 --> 02:02:55,440
moments and there are

3131
02:02:59,830 --> 02:02:58,159
moments in life when you can step in and

3132
02:03:01,589 --> 02:02:59,840
sort of

3133
02:03:04,149 --> 02:03:01,599
at least try to correct somebody that's

3134
02:03:05,830 --> 02:03:04,159
on a really wrong path i don't know

3135
02:03:07,430 --> 02:03:05,840
um

3136
02:03:08,870 --> 02:03:07,440
i believe in a road to redemption for

3137
02:03:09,910 --> 02:03:08,880
everybody

3138
02:03:12,950 --> 02:03:09,920
uh but

3139
02:03:14,870 --> 02:03:12,960
sometimes things look terrible and uh

3140
02:03:16,629 --> 02:03:14,880
that i i i don't know what else i could

3141
02:03:17,430 --> 02:03:16,639
say about that situation it's a weird

3142
02:03:19,910 --> 02:03:17,440
one

3143
02:03:22,310 --> 02:03:19,920
and we'll have more on that

3144
02:03:23,750 --> 02:03:22,320
i'll um

3145
02:03:26,229 --> 02:03:23,760
be finishing that interview and

3146
02:03:28,950 --> 02:03:26,239
uploading it as soon as possible

3147
02:03:30,870 --> 02:03:28,960
also working on a very big story that

3148
02:03:31,990 --> 02:03:30,880
involves many many people in the ufo

3149
02:03:34,709 --> 02:03:32,000
community

3150
02:03:36,870 --> 02:03:34,719
uh that's pretty shocking and dark and

3151
02:03:40,149 --> 02:03:36,880
really uh

3152
02:03:41,350 --> 02:03:40,159
it's a it's a compelling but really sad

3153
02:03:42,870 --> 02:03:41,360
story

3154
02:03:44,470 --> 02:03:42,880
and we'll have that done hopefully in

3155
02:03:46,950 --> 02:03:44,480
the next week or so which should

3156
02:03:49,109 --> 02:03:46,960
premiere next week i thought that story

3157
02:03:51,669 --> 02:03:49,119
so important that i wanted to do it all

3158
02:03:54,470 --> 02:03:51,679
off air so that we could edit it and and

3159
02:03:56,229 --> 02:03:54,480
make the story uh

3160
02:03:57,589 --> 02:03:56,239
do all the things that it needs there's

3161
02:03:59,750 --> 02:03:57,599
a lot of evidence involved in

3162
02:04:01,350 --> 02:03:59,760
screenshots and messages between people

3163
02:04:03,030 --> 02:04:01,360
and things like that it's it's kind of

3164
02:04:03,910 --> 02:04:03,040
complicated so

3165
02:04:06,229 --> 02:04:03,920
uh

3166
02:04:09,109 --> 02:04:06,239
we're hammering away here

3167
02:04:12,310 --> 02:04:09,119
i will return tomorrow sometime i will

3168
02:04:15,510 --> 02:04:12,320
try to post when that is as early as

3169
02:04:19,030 --> 02:04:17,510
and that's all we got for you

3170
02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:19,040
let me know what you think in the

3171
02:04:22,470 --> 02:04:21,760
comments uh did these children really

3172
02:04:25,189 --> 02:04:22,480
see

3173
02:04:26,629 --> 02:04:25,199
an alien spacecraft and aliens or was it

3174
02:04:28,550 --> 02:04:26,639
something else

3175
02:04:30,709 --> 02:04:28,560
do you believe the skeptics who say that

3176
02:04:32,790 --> 02:04:30,719
maybe the children embellished or were

3177
02:04:34,950 --> 02:04:32,800
just telling stories

3178
02:04:37,430 --> 02:04:34,960
uh or do you believe the children that

3179
02:04:38,870 --> 02:04:37,440
they saw some other worldly creatures

3180
02:04:40,870 --> 02:04:38,880
let us know what you think in the

3181
02:04:42,310 --> 02:04:40,880
comments

3182
02:04:44,390 --> 02:04:42,320
until next time friends my name is

3183
02:04:48,340 --> 02:04:44,400
steven cambion good night and god bless

3184
02:06:08,680 --> 02:04:57,669
[Music]

3185
02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:08,690
[Applause]

3186
02:06:48,210 --> 02:06:22,940
so